1886 Steyr Korpacheck bayonet found

[JackyFisher]

This is gonna be my "sword". Probably saw no service but very good looking! Makes a persistent ring when drawn. 

 

[AndyBsk]

Looks like used piece but not heavily, i assume the scabbard is missmatch and was reblued in time. Nice bayonet, low serial number could speak for short rifle, on spine of blade should be Steyr 1886 engraved.

[JackyFisher]

On 11/01/2022 at 11:47, AndyBsk said:

Looks like used piece but not heavily, i assume the scabbard is missmatch and was reblued in time. Nice bayonet, low serial number could speak for short rifle, on spine of blade should be Steyr 1886 engraved.

Yes the scabbard is way mismatched, DD123 or so. Appears to have a layer of black paint. Spine says steyr 1886.

I was not aware of the short rifle. You mean the carbine or Guedes single shot?

 

 

 

 

[AndyBsk]

I assume here in Great war rifles  thread are presented short rifles and carbines by Steve1871 excellent collection, so You should read the info there, the DD123 is a rifle serial number, the B772 could be serial for rifle or for short rifle, hard to say, evidently the MRD is 16 mm which is normal for long rifle. The serialing started by one letter prefix, so B772 is the second range after Axxx range. As the short weapons never reached the ammount of long rifles they were never doubble letter prefix  serialed.

The name of the inventor was Kropatschek which is mostly a slavic root name and not untypical in Austria. The name in Czech republik is normal used in form of Kropáček.

Edited 13 January , 2022 by AndyBsk

[JackyFisher]

10 hours ago, AndyBsk said:

I assume here in Great war rifles  thread are presented short rifles and carbines by Steve1871 excellent collection, so You should read the info there, the DD123 is a rifle serial number, the B772 could be serial for rifle or for short rifle, hard to say, evidently the MRD is 16 mm which is normal for long rifle. The serialing started by one letter prefix, so B772 is the second range after Axxx range. As the short weapons never reached the ammount of long rifles they were never doubble letter prefix  serialed.

The name of the inventor was Kropatschek which is mostly a slavic root name and not untypical in Austria. The name in Czech republik is normal used in form of Kropáček.

Woo that was very informative. Thanks!

Yes the muzzle ring is 16 mm -ish, at least less than 17 mm (don't have a caliper)

[JMB1943]

Just so that "Korpachek" does not get wrongly perpetuated, the correct name is "Kropatschek".

Regards,

JMB

Edited 13 January , 2022 by JMB1943
typo

[JackyFisher]

Nooooooooo

Thanks JMB! 

[JackyFisher]

On 12/01/2022 at 23:57, AndyBsk said:

I assume here in Great war rifles  thread are presented short rifles and carbines by Steve1871 excellent collection, so You should read the info there, the DD123 is a rifle serial number, the B772 could be serial for rifle or for short rifle, hard to say, evidently the MRD is 16 mm which is normal for long rifle. The serialing started by one letter prefix, so B772 is the second range after Axxx range. As the short weapons never reached the ammount of long rifles they were never doubble letter prefix  serialed.

The name of the inventor was Kropatschek which is mostly a slavic root name and not untypical in Austria. The name in Czech republik is normal used in form of Kropáček.

I found an example with serial number starting without a letter

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/portugese-bayonets.764170/

Last image

Although it could be erased due to polishing

Rabbit hole entered!

[Steve1871]

Sorry I missed your post before JackyFisher

I know I have 2, maybe 3 of these bayonets, have seen several others. They all have been in above average to excellent, some with mint blades. They are impressive in size. 
In beginning of the Great War, most countries were ill prepared for a major war. Many countries brought out obsolete rifles/carbines for home use ( inside own country) to free up better arms for these soldiers. 
AndyBsk  said in another post that Austria even used a small number is obsolete Werndl rifles with bayonets for prison guards ( prisoner of war??) among a few other things.    I believe some African native troops still had Upgraded Martini Henry rifles in .303 ( Mk.6?) Portuguese troops , Kropatschek rifles. And at least 2 native units were k own to have used them in the Great War.      
Germany did the same at home and were still on hand in their colonies 

I do not know if there was more than one maker for these bayonets.       

Thanks for sharing.       
Steve

[AndyBsk]

I believe that sample of Gunboard could be refurbishment or reserialed as normally the Kropatchek were with prefix letters. What was doing in last 130 years is hard to say.

[JackyFisher]

On 25/01/2022 at 11:00, Steve1871 said:

Sorry I missed your post before JackyFisher

I know I have 2, maybe 3 of these bayonets, have seen several others. They all have been in above average to excellent, some with mint blades. They are impressive in size. 
In beginning of the Great War, most countries were ill prepared for a major war. Many countries brought out obsolete rifles/carbines for home use ( inside own country) to free up better arms for these soldiers. 
AndyBsk  said in another post that Austria even used a small number is obsolete Werndl rifles with bayonets for prison guards ( prisoner of war??) among a few other things.    I believe some African native troops still had Upgraded Martini Henry rifles in .303 ( Mk.6?) Portuguese troops , Kropatschek rifles. And at least 2 native units were k own to have used them in the Great War.      
Germany did the same at home and were still on hand in their colonies 

I do not know if there was more than one maker for these bayonets.       

Thanks for sharing.       
Steve

Thanks! Thats a great point