Help to identify Cap Badge please

[Simon J Emmerson]

Good Morning Folks, once again I'm struggling to identify this chaps Cap Badge in the photo postcard. Is he KRRC or one of the London Battalions? The studio photo postcard was taken at Putney. 

Thank you in advance 

[FROGSMILE]

9th County of London Battalion, the London Regiment (Queen Victoria’s Rifles). 

“9th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment, The 1st Queen Victoria’s Rifles are the descendants of The Duke of Cumberland’s Corps of Sharpshooters which was inaugurated in September 1803. In 1908, when the Territorial Force was created, the 9th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Queen Victoria’s Rifles) was allocated to the 3rd London Brigade, 1st London Division.

In August 1914 they had their HQ at 56 Davies Street and were part of 3rd London Brigade, 1st London Division. They Moved on mobilisation to Bullswater, going on in September to Crowborough. Early in the Great War, the 1st London Division was broken up to provide reinforcements for the BEF and on 5th November 1914 the 9th Battalion landed at Havre and joined 13th Brigade, 5th Division. The battalion fought with 5th Division throughout 1915, at Hill 60, Second Ypres and St Julien. In February 1916 the 56th Division was formed in France and the 9th Battalion were allocated to the 169th Brigade. It fought with this division on the Somme, Arras, Third Ypres and Cambrai and transferred to the 58th Division in February 1918 where it amalgamated with the 2/9th to become the 9th Battalion.”

NB.  I think you can just about make out the shape of the cloth QVR shoulder title at the top of his left upper arm, which suggests a photo 1916-17.

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[Simon J Emmerson]

19 minutes ago, FROGSMILE said:

9th County of London Battalion, the London Regiment (Queen Victoria’s Rifles). 

“9th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment, The 1st Queen Victoria’s Rifles are the descendants of The Duke of Cumberland’s Corps of Sharpshooters which was inaugurated in September 1803. In 1908, when the Territorial Force was created, the 9th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Queen Victoria’s Rifles) was allocated to the 3rd London Brigade, 1st London Division.

In August 1914 they had their HQ at 56 Davies Street and were part of 3rd London Brigade, 1st London Division. They Moved on mobilisation to Bullswater, going on in September to Crowborough. Early in the Great War, the 1st London Division was broken up to provide reinforcements for the BEF and on 5th November 1914 the 9th Battalion landed at Havre and joined 13th Brigade, 5th Division. The battalion fought with 5th Division throughout 1915, at Hill 60, Second Ypres and St Julien. In February 1916 the 56th Division was formed in France and the 9th Battalion were allocated to the 169th Brigade. It fought with this division on the Somme, Arras, Third Ypres and Cambrai and transferred to the 58th Division in February 1918 where it amalgamated with the 2/9th to become the 9th Battalion.”

NB.  I think you can just about make out the shape of the cloth QVR shoulder title at the top of his left upper arm, which suggests a photo 1916-17.

Many thanks for your reply and time. 

[FROGSMILE]

4 minutes ago, Simon J Emmerson said:

Many thanks for your reply and time. 

I’m always pleased to help Simon, you invariably find excellent photos.  Thank you for posting them. 

P.S.  he is wearing the regiment’s own buttons rather than the GS Rifles type.

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[Simon J Emmerson]

Yes they didn't look like powder horns. Plus the photographers location. The Landyard throws me too. Obviously not ruling out Transport Section men. I don't generally come across many KRRC men wearing Landyards. 

[FROGSMILE]

9 minutes ago, Simon J Emmerson said:

Yes they didn't look like powder horns. Plus the photographers location. The Landyard throws me too. Obviously not ruling out Transport Section men. I don't generally come across many KRRC men wearing Landyards. 

Bugle horn rather than powder horn and the lanyard was issued to all soldiers along with a clasp knife, to be secured in the top left pocket, not just transport men.  Many men plaited the lanyard themselves to shorten it (there were a variety of styles).  The regimental buttons suggest an original member of the battalion.

NB.  Concerning the bugle horn, inexplicably a German type was used for metal titles but a French type for woven cloth titles.

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[Simon J Emmerson]

Thank you for the Information. I've lots more KRRC studio photo postcard vagues in my collection Without coming across as a broken record, I will post a few from time to time. 

[FROGSMILE]

38 minutes ago, Simon J Emmerson said:

Thank you for the Information. I've lots more KRRC studio photo postcard vagues in my collection Without coming across as a broken record, I will post a few from time to time. 

I always appreciate seeing your excellent photos Simon, so please do.

P.S. The bugle horn is a link with the German hunters who originally inspired the rifle corps and who signalled to each other in the forests using its calls.  It was found that the bugles were equally useful on noisy battlefields as the sound carried further than the drums used previously and it was a much more transportable instrument.

 

Edited 11 January , 2022 by FROGSMILE