post Armistice query RGA

[Seany]

I am looking at doing a bit more research around the social history of 293 siege battery, in particular the early post war experience for the officers and men involved. The 1921 census is helpful, although I wasn't expecting £2.50 a pop. It has thrown up a query for me. one man is identified on the census as a bonded labourer employed by the Labour Government bond. Search as I might I cannot find out what this means other than related to enforced labour/slave labour to repay a debt. I know this is not strictly within the purview of the website but you all usually know everything so I'm asking if anyone can tell me more.

thank you kindly.

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

32 minutes ago, Seany said:

the Labour Government bond.

Is that the exact order of the words?
That would imply a bond issued by the Labour Government.
But that makes no sense, as the UK didn't get its first Labour Government until 1924.

It might relate to some government policy at the time to guarantee certain types of employment, maybe eg. a government labour bond?

[Seany]

Hi Dai - yes its here in front of me.

Occupation - Bond Labourer.

Employer - Labour Government Bond, Lemington

its a real puzzle, I'm stumped, as is google et al.

I'm not sure it means 'Labour Government' as such, his father is listed as; Occupation, bricklayers labourer, Employer - Labour, Armstrong & Whitworth Co and his brother, occupation - labourer general, employer - Labour, Navy Stores.

[ss002d6252]

9 minutes ago, Seany said:

Hi Dai - yes its here in front of me.

Occupation - Bond Labourer.

Employer - Labour Government Bond, Lemington

its a real puzzle, I'm stumped, as is google et al.

I'm not sure it means 'Labour Government' as such, his father is listed as; Occupation, bricklayers labourer, Employer - Labour, Armstrong & Whitworth Co and his brother, occupation - labourer general, employer - Labour, Navy Stores.

Is it the transcription or the original?

Craig

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

16 minutes ago, Seany said:

Hi Dai - yes its here in front of me.

Occupation - Bond Labourer.

Employer - Labour Government Bond, Lemington

its a real puzzle, I'm stumped, as is google et al.

I'm not sure it means 'Labour Government' as such, his father is listed as; Occupation, bricklayers labourer, Employer - Labour, Armstrong & Whitworth Co and his brother, occupation - labourer general, employer - Labour, Navy Stores.

All those extra 'Labour' insertions look rather superfluous and suggest some sort of transcription errors. Can you post the original document?

[michaelpi]

Board labourer

for the

Local  Government Board?

[Seany]

here it is - transcribed maybe as 'bond' not board' as per Michaels suggestion.

Edited 8 January , 2022 by Seany

[ss002d6252]

I think, looking at 'Labour' and the entry above for Armstrong's, it's an abbreviated form of 'labourer'.

I'd also agree with it supposed to being 'board' rather than 'bond'.

Craig

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

Yes, all those 'Labour' entries in column (l) just describe the branch of industry, trade , profession or service the person is employed in.

So the Bricklayer's labourer is in the 'Labour' industry.  I'm not sure if it is the same man, or the entry below that states he is in the employment of Armstrong Whitworth.

The person on line 4 is also in the Labour industry, further qualified by 'Government Bond', Lemington.
Whether that person (who filled in the form themselves I believe) got his spelling wromng for 'board' is a possibility.

It would be interesting to see if any more turn up in the area.

[Seany]

thank you all - I shall pursue 'Labour Board' enquiries.

[ianjonesncl]

There was a Lemington Bond Munition Works which was operated by Armstrong Whitworth & Co. Just along the Tyne a few miles from Armstrong Whitworth's Elswick Works.

Northumbrian Gunner: Lemington Bond Munitions Works

 

 

[Seany]

10 hours ago, ianjonesncl said:

There was a Lemington Bond Munition Works which was operated by Armstrong Whitworth & Co. Just along the Tyne a few miles from Armstrong Whitworth's Elswick Works.

Northumbrian Gunner: Lemington Bond Munitions Works

 

 

Thanks Ian - right at the end of his street as well and he was later employed by Armstrongs - great lead to explore further/ Thank you.

[Dai Bach y Sowldiwr]

That sounds like a good possibility.

[Matlock1418]

I feel less sure about Bond being a mis-spelt Board.

Could Bond instead mean that they were tied to their employer in some manner - i.e. Bonded - along the line of being in an apprenticeship or post-apprenticeship empmployment relationship? [Edit: which is essentially like that which the OP put in his first post!]

???

M

Edited 9 January , 2022 by Matlock1418
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