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David Jamieson, Private 7466 1/4th (Border) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers is listed by CWGC as having died on 12 July 1915 at Gallipoli.

Like so many other Borderers who died that day at Achi Baba Nullah he is listed on his Medal Roll and Card as MPD, and on Soldiers effects similarly.

However on the 6 July 1915 the Berwickshire News reports him to have been severely wounded in the stomach as does the Jedburgh Gazette of 9 July.

Just to confuse things further the Berwickshire News repeats the story on 20 July.

Is there any way I can check the circumstances of his death. He is named on the Helles Memorial but if the earlier reports are correct he might have died and been buried at sea and the 12 July death is just a co-incidence. Perhaps? Maybe?

Ken

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3 hours ago, kenmorrison said:

David Jamieson, Private 7466 1/4th (Border) Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers is listed by CWGC as having died on 12 July 1915 at Gallipoli.

Like so many other Borderers who died that day at Achi Baba Nullah he is listed on his Medal Roll and Card as MPD, and on Soldiers effects similarly.

However on the 6 July 1915 the Berwickshire News reports him to have been severely wounded in the stomach as does the Jedburgh Gazette of 9 July.

Just to confuse things further the Berwickshire News repeats the story on 20 July.

Is there any way I can check the circumstances of his death. He is named on the Helles Memorial but if the earlier reports are correct he might have died and been buried at sea and the 12 July death is just a co-incidence. Perhaps? Maybe?

Ken

The War Diary does not list the names of the casualties in the attack on the 12th July.

The counter-attacks continued until the 14th, and the total casualties is listed on the 16th.

Better to let the 2 pages of the WD speak for themselves (courtesy of Ancestry ($pit)).

Note that they were in Rest Camp on the 6th.

Tom.

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not an expert on Gallipoli only reading a few books , the dates could be presumed died dates as the wounded were left for days also like the Somme, if they could not be recovered before decomposing or further action destroyed the body. likewise if he had been recoverd wounded on the first date and subsequently the hospital ship was sunk,there would be no one around to confirm date. 

a fellow soldier may have said "I saw him fall wounded on .. date",then as not found on the next date available to check.

could he have been taken pow and burried  in unmarked grave by the Turks

unlike todays , up to the minute news, the papers could only report what they were given, no roving reporter so printing what they were given.

 

Posted

After revisiting your post I saw that it also needs me to address the period earlier in the month when other casualties were sustained.

No names, just numbers and dates that might coincide with the newspaper articles.

(Again, courtesy of ancestry ($pit))

Tom.

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Having posted copies of original WD pages, I thought it best to 'rest' any tired eyes and post my transciptions of those pages.

Hope this helps your eyes...

Tom.

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Posted

Thank you so much Tom (especially for the transcriptions!)

It does look possible that my man might have been fatally wounded in late June but I guess we'll never know for sure.

Best wishes

Ken 

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7 hours ago, kenmorrison said:

Thank you so much Tom (especially for the transcriptions!)

It does look possible that my man might have been fatally wounded in late June but I guess we'll never know for sure.

Best wishes

Ken 

You're very welcome.

This is just another case of the exingencies of war preventing the details to be recorded.

Have you been in touch with the KOSBs Museum?

Museum – The King's Own Scottish Borderers (kosb.co.uk)

Kindest Regards,

Tom.

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2 minutes ago, Tom Lang said:

You're very welcome.

This is just another case of the exingencies of war preventing the details to be recorded.

Have you been in touch with the KOSBs Museum?

Museum – The King's Own Scottish Borderers (kosb.co.uk)

Kindest Regards,

Tom.

They are also on Fa(r)cebook...

The King's Own Scottish Borderers Museum - Home | Facebook

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