Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 "ANTIQUES ROADSHOW's resident expert was left blown away by an "astonishing" WW1 letter after it revealed the details of a historical football match that took place around Christmas time." I have my doubts. A name/regiment might have helped. The Express https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1540948/Antiques-Roadshow-expert-astonished-rare-WW1-letter Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 So, a letter written in 1940 by a Grenadier Guard NCO, Sgt Major Barker, about a WW1 football game. Not the clearest article by any means. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 I assume 1940 is meant to read 1914 ? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 3 minutes ago, ss002d6252 said: I assume 1940 is meant to read 1914 ? Craig I imagine so. Not sure of anything regarding this. will see if can find actual prog. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p011ffck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 In which case, the most obvious person I could see is #9718 Sgt Clement Barker.https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_fn=&_ln=barker&_no=&_crp=grenadier+guards&_ttl=*serjeant*&discoveryCustomSearch=true&_cr1=WO+372&_dt=M&_col=200&_hb=tna Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 7 minutes ago, Skipman said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p011ffck Thanks. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 Long Long Trail "1st Grenadier Guards: Moved forward on 18 December and held the line on the right of Scots Guards. They were relieved by the latter on 23 December and moved to billets on Rue de Quesnes. Major-General Capper and the Prince of Wales visited the battalion on Christmas Eve. The diary for Christmas only mentions the arrival of a draft." Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 5 minutes ago, Skipman said: Long Long Trail "1st Grenadier Guards: Moved forward on 18 December and held the line on the right of Scots Guards. They were relieved by the latter on 23 December and moved to billets on Rue de Quesnes. Major-General Capper and the Prince of Wales visited the battalion on Christmas Eve. The diary for Christmas only mentions the arrival of a draft." Mike So it looks like the 1st were in billets that day, away from the front (but perhaps had a burial party out ?). Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 Hmmm episode from 19 November 2012 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 Looks like old news getting a re-run https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252454/A-football-kicked-trenches-played-Germans-Previously-unseen-letter-Clement-Barker-recounting-World-War-One-Christmas-Day-truce-1914-revealed.html Mike And covered before on Forum Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss002d6252 Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 3 minutes ago, Skipman said: Looks like old news getting a re-run https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252454/A-football-kicked-trenches-played-Germans-Previously-unseen-letter-Clement-Barker-recounting-World-War-One-Christmas-Day-truce-1914-revealed.html Mike And covered before on Forum Mike Repeats at Xmas - don't believe it Mike Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipman Posted 25 December , 2021 Author Share Posted 25 December , 2021 Just now, ss002d6252 said: Repeats at Xmas - don't believe it Mike Craig Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 25 December , 2021 Share Posted 25 December , 2021 If only they had VAR.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 26 December , 2021 Share Posted 26 December , 2021 (edited) On 25/12/2021 at 11:44, Skipman said: "ANTIQUES ROADSHOW's resident expert was left blown away by an "astonishing" WW1 letter after it revealed the details of a historical football match that took place around Christmas time." I have my doubts. A name/regiment might have helped. The Express https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1540948/Antiques-Roadshow-expert-astonished-rare-WW1-letter Mike With the Excess website being even slower and more unusable than the Fail's, I was unable to access the article, but if the 'expert' was that twerp who sobs his way through half the slots he has on AR, I would be shovelling salt down with that story faster than a political prisoner in Siberia, frankly. On 25/12/2021 at 12:56, Dai Bach y Sowldiwr said: If only they had VAR.... Keep up. It's 'The Var' now, daddy-oh. Or possibly you could use the indefinite article in this case, so let's go with 'a Var'. Edited 26 December , 2021 by Steven Broomfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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