DangDingus711 Posted 23 December , 2021 Share Posted 23 December , 2021 Hey everyone! I made a post a bit back about the helmet in this post, regarding the insignia (which may is 8/10 chance of being solved at this point). Well, after receiving the helmet, I noticed something else… different? About the helmet. compared to most of not all other WW1 (and indeed WW2h Brodie style helmets I’ve seen, in person and online, I have noticed that this helmet has a much steeper slant to the brim. For comparison, I’ve brought out my other WW1 Brodie that I currently have (the Brodie on the left, and or the one without the painted insignia). as you can see, the painted helmet has a much sharper slant down than the quite flat usual helmet structure I have seen. Any idea what is up with it? Or is this just a normal amount of deviance? Brodie and helmet experts, I would love you help! should also note, they are both British manufacture. The plain is a BS manufacture helmet, while the insignia is a H.V manufacture helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRANVILLE Posted 27 December , 2021 Share Posted 27 December , 2021 Personally, I can't see a great deal of difference. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 27 December , 2021 Share Posted 27 December , 2021 I tend to agree with Granville. To make a visual comparison fair, you need the photo to be symmetrical both vertically and horizontally, i.e., show the same height and width of both helmets. If you can center the candle holder accurately, that would help. Measuring a piece of adhesive tape from the center of the rivet to the edge of the brim for both helmets may tell the tale. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 On 27/12/2021 at 14:14, JMB1943 said: I tend to agree with Granville. To make a visual comparison fair, you need the photo to be symmetrical both vertically and horizontally, i.e., show the same height and width of both helmets. If you can center the candle holder accurately, that would help. Measuring a piece of adhesive tape from the center of the rivet to the edge of the brim for both helmets may tell the tale. Regards, JMB Long story short, through coincidental research I answered my own question… Hutton (manufacturer of the helmet) made them slightly different from other WW1 Brodie’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 8 January , 2022 Share Posted 8 January , 2022 DD711, That is a very interesting piece of information. Where did you come across this? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 Just now, JMB1943 said: DD711, That is a very interesting piece of information. Where did you come across this? Regards, JMB It was a combination of asking the people I purchased this from, and looking at other pictures of Hutton made helmets. Almost all the ones I saw had a different style of slope down as opposed to the flat slope of other helmet manufacturers. Plus the company I purchased this from said in all the Huttons they have come across, there has been a slope. I’ll post some pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 12 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: DD711, That is a very interesting piece of information. Where did you come across this? Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 8 January , 2022 Share Posted 8 January , 2022 DD711, Very interesting!! I think that you are the first to raise this issue of a different front slope (and possibly rear slope ??) for the Hutton-made helmets. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 Just now, JMB1943 said: DD711, Very interesting!! I think that you are the first to raise this issue of a different front slope (and possibly rear slope ??) for the Hutton-made helmets. Regards, JMB I’m a real trailblazer (just kidding)! I am a little OCD in my collecting of various things, so many little things will end up sticking out to me- like this evidently. And not only is it a different front and rear slope, but the sides as well, as seen in the photos posted. They seem to be quite different in slant compared to other manufacturers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 2 minutes ago, JMB1943 said: DD711, Very interesting!! I think that you are the first to raise this issue of a different front slope (and possibly rear slope ??) for the Hutton-made helmets. Regards, JMB Also, I had another question regarding Brodie’s in general, but not this specific one in particular- have you come across shells that have an uneven brim? As in one side is longer than the opposite side? I just snagged a new shell, and when looking at it from the front, the left side of the brim is about a quarter to half inch longer than the right- and the same goes for the rear and the front (rear is longer than front). Common/normal if you have by any chance seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 8 January , 2022 Share Posted 8 January , 2022 On 27/12/2021 at 14:14, JMB1943 said: I tend to agree with Granville. Measuring a piece of adhesive tape from the center of the rivet to the edge of the brim for both helmets may tell the tale. Regards, JMB I have to apologize for my stupid suggestion of running adhesive tape across that nicely painted insignia!!!!! Cannot definitively answer the question regarding different lengths of brims/rears, LHS/RHS etc, but @GRANVILLE probably can. I have some remembrance of a thread about dimensions and their variability from 4-5 yrs ago. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 8 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 8 January , 2022 1 minute ago, JMB1943 said: I have to apologize for my stupid suggestion of running adhesive tape across that nicely painted insignia!!!!! Cannot definitively answer the question regarding different lengths of brims/rears, LHS/RHS etc, but @GRANVILLE probably can. I have some remembrance of a thread about dimensions and their variability from 4-5 yrs ago. Regards, JMB Don’t apologize- if it weren’t for the insignia it would have made sense! Thanks again for the info and help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMB1943 Posted 9 January , 2022 Share Posted 9 January , 2022 DD711, https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/158461-brodie-dimensions/#comment-1531865 Will take you to the thread on Brodie dimensions. Although it will not answer all of your questions explicitly, it does show the range of overall dimensions that is encountered. Regards, JMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangDingus711 Posted 14 January , 2022 Author Share Posted 14 January , 2022 On 09/01/2022 at 13:23, JMB1943 said: DD711, https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/158461-brodie-dimensions/#comment-1531865 Will take you to the thread on Brodie dimensions. Although it will not answer all of your questions explicitly, it does show the range of overall dimensions that is encountered. Regards, JMB Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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