William S. Crichton 6th Black Watch transfd. 14th Black Watch

[dhubthaigh]

I am currently researching the men who formed the first draft of the 6th Black Watch who went to France on 2nd May, 1915.

One of those men was William S. Crichton No. 1794 who was subsequently transferred to the 14th (Fife & Forfar Yeomanry) Battalion No. 345645.

The man (seated) in the attached photograph is William Stewart Crichton, a Dundee man, who is a potential candidate.

I note he has a wound stripe and other chevrons on his sleeve?

Is the uniform he is wearing consistent with that of a man in the 14th Black Watch?

Thanks.

[rolt968]

Tricky! It could be consistent. I have seen photos showing ex Fife and Forfar Yeomanry men in 14 Black Watch wearing trousers and puttees before they were issued with kilts. They continued to wind the puttees in the mounted style opening upwards. (They are wound infantry style in the photo.)

This photo was taken in 1918 (or later: overseas service chevrons appeared in 1918). (Interesting - chevrons on the wrong arm!) It could be a 14 Black Watch man who was in one of the sections where trousers were worn.

I think I would be worried by the service chevrons. They indicate between one and two years overseas service by 1918 for what might be a man who first went to France on 2 May 1915. However if he was wounded he might have been in the UK for some time.

Have you checked to see if your man appears as wounded in a casualty list under either number?

RM

 

Edited 21 December , 2021 by rolt968

[Grovetown]

1 hour ago, dhubthaigh said:

 

One of those men was William S. Crichton No. 1794 who was subsequently transferred to the 14th (Fife & Forfar Yeomanry) Battalion No. 345645.

The man (seated) in the attached photograph is William Stewart Crichton, a Dundee man, who is a potential candidate.

Is the uniform he is wearing consistent with that of a man in the 14th Black Watch?

Thanks.

While rolt968 is correct in that he has wound his puttees infantry style, he is wearing mounted breeches (technically called pantaloons).

This suggest he is in the mounted/ transport section of the 14th, unless - depends on the transfer date - he's still in the 6th, and its transport section.

Cheers,

GT.

Edited 21 December , 2021 by Grovetown

[FROGSMILE]

The standing man appears to have slip on titles with what appears to be longer lettering than the usual ‘RH’ of the Black Watch.  It perhaps suggests both men are, at least within the equation presented, more likely to be Fife & Forfar Yeomanry.

[Jen1988]

Hello, I have paid someone to  research my great grandfather, William Shires Crichton and he has come back with the service numbers 1794 and 345645 Black Watch. After seeing your photo I am now wondering if he has given me the correct information for my great grandfather as you have the same numbers but say its William Stewart Crichton pictured . Any ideas why this may be? 

Thanks 

[FROGSMILE]

1 minute ago, Jen1988 said:

Hello, I have paid someone to  research my great grandfather, William Shires Crichton and he has come back with the service numbers 1794 and 345645 Black Watch. After seeing your photo I am now wondering if he has given me the correct information for my great grandfather as you have the same numbers but say its William Stewart Crichton pictured . Any ideas why this may be? 

Thanks 

It suggests a mix up between two men with similar names/initials.  Perhaps one of the forum’s expert genealogists such as @PRCand @The Inspector can advise.

[esco]

7 hours ago, Jen1988 said:

Hello, I have paid someone to  research my great grandfather, William Shires Crichton and he has come back with the service numbers 1794 and 345645 Black Watch. After seeing your photo I am now wondering if he has given me the correct information for my great grandfather as you have the same numbers but say its William Stewart Crichton pictured . Any ideas why this may be? 

Thanks 

William Shires Crichton has a pension record showing his service number as 7536 .

7536 William Crichton was Scots Guards . Discharged  Gun Shot Wound left elbow .

P.S. You may be better starting another thread on 7536 William Crichton Scots Guards .

and sack your researcher !

Edited 22 March , 2022 by esco
More info.

[ss002d6252]

The records for #345645 has an address on the pension ledger.


https://www.fold3.com/image/643173906?terms=crichton,345645
Craig

[FROGSMILE]

These last few posts seem to be a subject hanging in the wind via duplication with: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/296884-william-shires-crichton-scots-guards/  ?

 

Edited 23 March , 2022 by FROGSMILE

[Michelle Young]

Please keep any replies on the new thread as linked.