Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 Hello and good day to all. I recently came across a box filled with old magazines in the basement of a long abandoned church that is being renovated. Found something that may be of interest here, but there is only one problem......it's in Russian! Actually I'm not sure if it's Russian as it may be Serbian or Bulgarian as they share a similar alphabet. It was a 2 inch thick stack of papers.....I'll post some pictures here. Thanks, Joey
corisande Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 What wonderful stuff you have there. Clearly we must await a language scholar to make progress, but I have one question - where was the church they were found?
Interested Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 Yes, that's what crossed my mind - in modern parlance, what is the back story? Looks to be a very interesting find.
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 16 minutes ago, corisande said: What wonderful stuff you have there. Clearly we must await a language scholar to make progress, but I have one question - where was the church they were found? I believe the church was in Detroit, Michigan, USA
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 You know this may sound funny, but I believe these may have been found by homeless/transient/travellers/urban explorers......whatever you want to call them. Their was a couple selling some stuff on the side on the side of the road, they looked like hippies or gypsy however you'd like to describe it. It was kind of like a 1 man pop up flea market. Most of the stuff was junk, but I acquired the box from them. I asked them where they got it, they said it was from an abandoned church in Detroit . Which church I cannot say for certain as their are many many abandoned churches and buildings in Detroit
corisande Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 Thanks. All we can conclude is that the box was in Detroit, but that is probably all we need to know The magazines (if that is what they are) were presumably mailed to someone in Michigan who collected then and stored them
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 I would like to find a language expert so we can properly translate these scan them, and enter them into an archive. I imagine not many of these have survived through the years. My internet searches have proved fruitless. This might provide a unique insight into ww1 that has been lost for over 100 years
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 4 minutes ago, corisande said: Thanks. All we can conclude is that the box was in Detroit, but that is probably all we need to know The magazines (if that is what they are) were presumably mailed to someone in Michigan who collected then and stored them It could be possible that someone from Eastern Europe brought them over sometime after the war, as their is a sizable Eastern European population in the Detroit/Chicago area
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 I've also found these....dated 1915 Bologna Italy
corisande Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 Could I suggest you alter the Title of the thread from "Help me identify these men" to something that asks specifically for Slav script translation. As it stands, I think you will fail to get such a person to read the thread
Neil 2242 Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boongie said: Actually I'm not sure if it's Russian as it may be Serbian or Bulgarian as they share a similar alphabet. They look to be Bulgarian. At the top of each one, you see the word Sofiya (ie Sofia) followed by the date. The headline on the second one down mentions General Todorov. The headline on the fourth one down is "Kaiser visits Sofia" or some such. The 8th one down is about signing the treaty of Brest Litovsk Edited 21 December , 2021 by Neil 2242
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 18 minutes ago, Neil 2242 said: They look to be Bulgarian. At the top of each one, you see the word Sofiya (ie Sofia) followed by the date. The headline on the second one down mentions General Todorov. The headline on the fourth one down is "Kaiser visits Sofia" or some such. The 8th one down is about signing the treaty of Brest Litovsk Thanks, these are just the headlines. Each one is 8 pages long (A few are 16) and specially pertain to military affairs (at least from the pictures)
FROGSMILE Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 (edited) I too think that they are Bulgarian, and probably connected with the Salonika campaign. The few photos/images where German uniforms appear, the implication of their demeanour appears to be that of allies. I don’t know how similar the Bulgarian Cyrillic is to Russian, but perhaps @Mikhail might be able to advise us. NB. I think the map on the penultimate Cyrillic newspaper appears to show the gateway to the Bosphorus with Constantinople/Istanbul on the left bank and Galata/Karakoy on the right bank. Edited 21 December , 2021 by FROGSMILE
FROGSMILE Posted 21 December , 2021 Posted 21 December , 2021 (edited) Some super photos that show the central powers cooperation between Bulgarian, Austro-Hungarian, German and Ottoman forces. One image seems to show an attack in mountainous county, and given the 1917 date might depict the successful efforts to thwart the Franco-Serbian spring offensive (including a British effort at Doiran) that was halted in May 1917. The image in a 1918 paper of Bulgarian troops withdrawing, and in one scene casting away their arms, almost certainly shows the Entente’s Vardar Offensive of September 1918 that followed Greece joining the allies (after a long period of neutrality) and which precipitated mass desertions and eventual surrender of the Bulgarian and associated forces. Edited 21 December , 2021 by FROGSMILE
Admin kenf48 Posted 21 December , 2021 Admin Posted 21 December , 2021 Can't help with the language but looks like 'Great War Illustrated' with a twist. This is quite a famous photograph. Here's a copy in English. I put the caption in Google Translate but without success https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk
Admin kenf48 Posted 21 December , 2021 Admin Posted 21 December , 2021 Title edited. to more accurately reflect topic
Boongie Posted 21 December , 2021 Author Posted 21 December , 2021 11 minutes ago, kenf48 said: Title edited. to more accurately reflect topic Thank you I was looking for the option to change the title but I couldn't find it! Hope someone can help
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