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pudsey63

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Alfred William Rose 203972, 1/7th Middlesex Regiment. 

I wonder if anyone can help me understand why this casualty’s family didn’t qualify to receive a pension. His service record shows that he died of wounds on 31/5/18. GSWs to head, abdomen and thigh. Was it common to say refused without any further explanation? TIA
 

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24 minutes ago, pudsey63 said:

I wonder if anyone can help me understand why this casualty’s family didn’t qualify to receive a pension. His service record shows that he died of wounds on 31/5/18. GSWs to head, abdomen and thigh. Was it common to say refused without any further explanation?

This [example image above] was just a Pension Ledger Index Card, not a full Awards file. 

There would have been a Ledger entry [Region 11 - SE England] and likely a more detailed Awards file with more explanation. Sadly the Ledger seems lost and the Awards files were deliberately destroyed shortly after their use was ended.

Commonly the reason given for such a refusal/no award: No dependance of a mother [or other claimant] upon the soldier son whilst he was alive.

:-) M

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Thank you Matlock. So if I can establish his father was still alive that would explain it. I’ll keep digging. 

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1 hour ago, pudsey63 said:

So if I can establish his father was still alive that would explain it.

His father could have been dead or could have still been alive and the son could have made payments to his mother [such were typically paid to a mother rather than to a father as he would be more likely to have his own income] and have had her 'dependancy' established that way.

That the mother made the claim can rather work either way without other info.

If he had made payments to his mother - it is quite possible that such payments to his mother could not be proven to the satisfaction of the Ministry of Pensions so as to establish a 'depencancy'.

The easiest way for a mother to show she had received payments was through formal allotted deductions from a soldier's pay - not always easy to find such evidence now.  Perhaps not easy then either.

Nor does the PLIC show any evidence of extreme hardship that might have alternatively produced a gratuitous payment or pension.

Without a Pension Awards file it is hard to provide a full explanation of MoP thinking.

:-) M

 

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That's really interesting. His mother appears to have been the one to receive all the official notification etc after the war but I've discovered his father died in 1940, so she wasn't a dependent. Thanks for filling in some gaps in my understanding. :rolleyes:

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