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Bayonet i.d please


Dogman

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Hi all,

Thanks for letting me join the forum.

 Can anyone i.d this bayonet please. It's unusual in that the pommel is brass, no blood groove on blade, and has a flat top and the blade is very long. 

This item belongs to my elderly neighbour and was passed onto him by his late father.

Glenn

 

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Wow,

Thanks bert.f, my neighbour will be pleased. Thank you once again.

Glenn

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The bayonet Gras 1874 should have blade spine inscription,  when K range mostly serialed to Saint Etienne production rifle. in this case mostly with refurbished Chassepot M66-74 to new metalic cartridge, unfortunally the surface is rusted so the spine marking would be hard readable, there should be maker and date when made. Oiled should be the metall surface.

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Thanks,

You can see the inscription using magnifying glasses with led lights.

With gentle cleaning, it should reveal the inscription clearly. 👍

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Possible makers are,

Chatellerault; L. Deny; Tulle; St. Etienne; Steyr.

Use bronze wool (or #0000 steel wool) and light oil to remove rust.

Are the bayonet and scabbard a numbers matching pair?

Regards,

JMB

 

 

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The numbers don't match unfortunately. The owner is a retired welder and knows metals. He stated he would use 5 /00000 grade steel wool and WD40.

Not sure if WD40 is okay?

 

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The function of the liquid is to act as a lubricant, so WD40 should be OK.

Is 5/00000 a finer grade than 0000 steel wool?

Also, please do show us some photos if you or he does some clean-up.

Regards,

JMB

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WD 40 for cleaning is ok, for preserving later is better a renesaince wax or gun oil. I believe the 0000 steel wool would be better on heavy rust. as the finest wool will not much remove probably. Before cleaning is good coat the surface in gun oil to soft the rust.

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9 hours ago, JMB1943 said:

The function of the liquid is to act as a lubricant, so WD40 should be OK.

Is 5/00000 a finer grade than 0000 steel wool?

Also, please do show us some photos if you or he does some clean-up.

Regards,

JMB

Yes, it's finer. He knows his metals, so I'm sure it will be fine. Hopefully, I'll get some photo's once done.

I know he want's to leave it as uncleaned as possible. Thank you.

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