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Enlistment Date 33062 Private William Jarvis, 6th Battalion, King's Shropshire Light Infantry.


Blue Dragoon

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Could some kind forum member hazard a guess at an enlistment date for 33062 Private William Jarvis, 6th Battalion, King's Shropshire Light InfantryDied on 23 September 1917.  Many thanks

 

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The war gratuity in this case tells us that he had less than 12 months service, so it can only set a lower bound in this case of 24 Sep 1916.

Craig

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Looking at other service records #33067 was called up 27 Feb 1917 and joined the KSLI depot on 1 Mar 1917.

Craig

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crikey so its likely he was only with the Bn in Belguim a few months before he was killed in action

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14 minutes ago, Blue Dragoon said:

crikey so its likely he was only with the Bn in Belguim a few months before he was killed in action

It would seem that way. Usually 3-4 months training and then overseas.

Craig

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cheers Craig, very grateful

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A check of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website looking for other men of the KSLI with service numbers 330xx brings up

33080 Private Ernest Breeze 6th Battalion died 23rd September 1917.
33081 Private John Downes 6th Battalion died 16th August 1917.
33082 Private Frank Jones 6th Battalion died 12th August 1917.
33084 Private J. Jones 7th Battalion died 27th September 1917.
33089 Private Josiah Dean C Company 6th Battalion died 23rd September 1917.

There are also others who died later in the war. None of those five have surviving service records.

The earliest death was on the 12th August 1917. The Battalion War Diary shows drafts being received on the 6th July and the 21st & 23rd August 1917. The last draft referred to before that in the diary was on the 10th April 1917.

The CWGC website only shows six men in total from the 6th Battalion as having died on the 23rd September 1917. All are either buried in Belgium or are remembered on the Tyne Cot memorial in Belgium. Interestingly one of the others not already listed above was another C Company man, Serjeant Samuel Rich, (12685).

As far as I can tell the men who died on the 23rd September 1917 don’t appear on a single casualty list, so very difficult to identify individuals that might have been wounded at the same time.

The operations of the 6th Battalion during this period are detailed in an appendices to the war diary for September 1917. I don’t believe it provides any breakdown as to casualties  killed, wounded, etc.There is one little remark, after a paragraph on how much further forward the attacking troops had pressed, and it is buried away in the text. “Our own stokes mortar caused some casualties”.

That raises the prospect that William Jarvis or some of the others may have died as a result of friendly fire.

A sad thought indeed,

Peter

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