KRRCchap Posted 15 October , 2021 Share Posted 15 October , 2021 Hi, I am looking to find the location of the Le Rutoire trenches. I know that the 1st battalion of the Scots Guards served there. I have information that they relieved the 1st Coldstream Guards on the 12th July 1915 until July 16th 1915. I would really like to pinpoint the exact location if anyone can help. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 15 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 15 October , 2021 Rats Alley gives Rutoire Alley as map 36cNW3 G 8,9,15,22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Regiano Posted 15 October , 2021 Share Posted 15 October , 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 15 October , 2021 Share Posted 15 October , 2021 The War Diary of 1 Infantry Brigade (1 Div) WO 95/1261/2 14/07/1915 records that 1 Brigade were in Y Section and a record of Reliefs (Ancestry p 230/1317) shows the Scots Guards to relieve the Coldstream Guards in Y 1 on 13/07/1915. The WD of 1 Div HQ General Staff (WO 95/1229/1-3) Operational Order no 97 dated 10/07/1915 shows the boundaries of Y Section as The Le Rutoire to Loos Road, exclusive to the Auchy to Vermelles Rd. There are other references to work done in Y Section by the Royal Engineers 23 Field Co and 26 Field Co (1 Div). The WD of 23 FC RE 29/06/1915 records that work was started in Y 1 and mentions Daly's Keep and Le Rutoire Keep. The WD of the Commander RE 1 Div also refers to work in Y 1, mentioning Daly's Passage, Daly's Keep and Le Rutoire Alley. You can see these on the above map. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRRCchap Posted 16 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2021 Many thanks to you all for responding, it is really appreciated. Don Regiano, many thanks for the map, this clearly shows the location. I have tried to overlay this map onto a current Google map and I cannot find any reference or mention of Le Rutois which appears to be a small hamlet on your map. Maybe it was destroyed in later fighting. I will have to try and find another map that may show it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteStarLine Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 OP, please see your other thread where you have asked exactly the same location question for Rutoire and received responses from a different set of GWF posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianmorris547 Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 This is from the IGN 2405 E Lens 1:25 000 Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 16 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 16 October , 2021 I will lock the CCS thread, please keep answers here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 16 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 16 October , 2021 Le Rutoire is 3 farms and a couple of additional houses these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRRCchap Posted 16 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2021 Many Thanks Michelle. From all the responses received, I have managed to work out the exact location I was looking for. Apologies for the confusion posting over 2 threads. Thank you to all who have helped me, I am very grateful. Regards Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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