Help to identify a soldier please

[derekb]

Good Afternoon,

I am going through some bits and pieces accumulated over the years, I have come across a WW1 trio named to;

1914 - 15 Star                 2629, PTE F. OWEN. S.LAN.REG.

Victory and War Medal;  3629. PTE F. OWEN. S.LAN.REG.

I have been unable to trace this man, does anyone have any ideas?

Derekb

 

[charlie962]

Both Rolls are in the Labour Corps number 255788. Formerly 2/5th Sth Lancs 3629. Frederick owen, entered (1) 27/6/15, Dism 18/2/19

[charlie962]

LonglongTrail says 2/5th Sth Lancs did not land France until 1917 so must have been another Bn ?

[derekb]

Thank you Charlie, I was looking at Medal Index Cards, but couldn't find anything.

[clk]

Hi Derek,

On Ancestry his medal roll records would appear to be here. They show a Labour Corps number of 355788. That number links to a pension claim index card on Fold3 which shows...

Image sourced from Fold3

Hopefully the info on the card may enable you to springboard and find some biographical/genealogical info.  

I wonder if his transfer to the Labour Corps might have been as a consequence of a medical downgrading as a result of shell shock/heart problems.

It would need more work on it to firm it up, but from a limited sample it looks like his Labour Corps service number may have been issued circa 21.8.1917. For example, service papers show 355771 Houghton; 355773 Hurst, and 355789 Melling were posted/transferred to the Western Command Labour Centre from the 4th (Reserve) Battalion, South Lancashire Regiment on that date.

Regards
Chris

 

Edited 31 July , 2021 by clk

[derekb]

Hi Chris,

Thank you very much, it is starting to add up, I obtained the trio in Widnes, which is not very far from St Helens.

Regards,

Derek.

[charlie962]

17 hours ago, clk said:

They show a Labour Corps number of 355788.

my mistake. That explains why I could not find that pension card!!

[derekb]

On 31/07/2021 at 21:52, clk said:

Hi Derek,

On Ancestry his medal roll records would appear to be here. They show a Labour Corps number of 355788. That number links to a pension claim index card on Fold3 which shows...

Image sourced from Fold3

Hopefully the info on the card may enable you to springboard and find some biographical/genealogical info.  

I wonder if his transfer to the Labour Corps might have been as a consequence of a medical downgrading as a result of shell shock/heart problems.

It would need more work on it to firm it up, but from a limited sample it looks like his Labour Corps service number may have been issued circa 21.8.1917. For example, service papers show 355771 Houghton; 355773 Hurst, and 355789 Melling were posted/transferred to the Western Command Labour Centre from the 4th (Reserve) Battalion, South Lancashire Regiment on that date.

Regards
Chris

 

Does anyone know what “Y D H” means?

[petwes]

I think it's Valvular Disease of the Heart.

[derekb]

Thank you Peters.