My great Grandad was a company sjgt major 8th seaforth highlanders. Was interested in his medals and if anyone knows what these medals were for. thank

[Corinne]

my Great Grandfather was awarded a D.C.M (see pic) I wondered if anyone would know anything about the day he would have received this. I’m researching my family tree. It’s amazing. 

[Corinne]

my Great Grandfather was awarded a D.C.M (see pic) I wondered if anyone would know anything about the day he would have received this. I’m researching my family tree. It’s amazing. 

[Michelle Young]

Welcome to the forum. The medal you show is not the actual DCM, but a Seaforth  Highlanders Association medal. You might find his citation on the London Gazette online, or the war diary, as you know his battalion, might mention why. These are currently free to download from the National Archives website after you register. If you can give us his name and any other details, I'm sure the forum sleuths can help.

Image DCM from google 

 

Michelle

[RussT]

Welcome to the Forum

It tends to be a bit easier with a full name and service number.

Looking at the blurry image it looks like Wm (William) Currie.

If it's the 8th Bn Seaforths as you say, then it could be this chap:

Regards

Russ

[Michelle Young]

I've also merged the two separate threads to keep answers in one place.

[jonbem]

Here is Gazette entry of Citation

Page 2663 | Supplement 29503, 10 March 1916 | London Gazette | The Gazette

after initial notification

Page 598 | Supplement 29438, 11 January 1916 | London Gazette | The Gazette

 

Edited 21 July , 2021 by jonbem

[Corinne]

4 minutes ago, Michelle Young said:

I've also merged the two separate threads to keep answers in one place.

Thank you. I’m hopeless !😂

[Corinne]

9 minutes ago, jonbem said:

Here is Gazette entry of Citation

Page 2663 | Supplement 29503, 10 March 1916 | London Gazette | The Gazette

after initial notification

Page 598 | Supplement 29438, 11 January 1916 | London Gazette | The Gazette

 

Thank you.

[jonbem]

If you susbscribe to Ancestry

Name:William Albert Currie

Military Year:1914-1915

Rank:Sjt (A/CSM)

Regiment or Corps:Seaforth Highlanders

Regiment Number:s/3926

Medal Roll for VM & BWM UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 - Ancestry.co.uk

Star Roll Ancestry.co.uk - UK, World War I Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 also shows arrived France 9/7/1915

Medal Index card UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 - Ancestry.co.uk

 

 

[Corinne]

Wow! This site is amazing! Thank you! ❤️

[Michelle Young]

Do you have his medals, apart from the medallion in your first post?

[Ivor Anderson]

If the initial notification of his DCM was in the LG on 11 Jan 1916 then it was awarded in 1915. As he was an acting CSM the war diary may possibly mention him.

The relevant war diary is available to download here (currently FREE if you register with the NA): https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14053636

It may be for the major attack on 25 September 1915 when many officers were killed or wounded?

Edited 21 July , 2021 by Ivor Anderson

[Corinne]

On 21/07/2021 at 13:49, RussT said:

Welcome to the Forum

It tends to be a bit easier with a full name and service number.

Looking at the blurry image it looks like Wm (William) Currie.

If it's the 8th Bn Seaforths as you say, then it could be this chap:

Regards

Russ

Yes it’s him. 

[Corinne]

[Corinne]

On 21/07/2021 at 14:15, Michelle Young said:

Do you have his medals, apart from the medallion in your first post?

These are the medals given to his wife 

[Ian Riley]

Wow, 

That looks like a Distinguished Conduct Medal, an India General Service Medal (pre 1908 - can't remember the exact dates and can't read the bar), Queen's Sudan Medal, Africa General Service Medal (1902-1956 but can't read the bar but won before 1914), either a 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star (too indistinct to tell at least for my ancient eyes  but as it does not have the clasp - possibly the 1914-15 Star), British War Medal 1914-19, Allied Victory Medal, Regular Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, The Khedive's Sudan medal(awarded for the same campaign as the Queen's Medal I think but as a foreign medal won after all British awards. 

I hope they are somewhere very safe!

I would suggest following this up with the  Museum of the Highlanders (Seaforth and Camerons) at Fort George. The 8th Seaforth was a New Army Unit raised in 1914 - all the medals before the 'Star' (with the possible exception the DCM will have been won with a Regular battalion either of the Seaforths or some other regiment the details should be on the medal rims

 

8th Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders  Just a very quick search as I am on my way to anther site!

 

Hope that helps. The DCM is the second highest award for gallantry for a non-commission officer, soldier or warrant officer (although a Warrant officer could be awarded the Military Cross)

 

Edited 28 August , 2021 by Ian Riley
Additional information

[Knotty]

26 minutes ago, Ian Riley said:

The Khedive's Sudan medal(awarded for the same campaign as the Queen's Medal

The Queens Sudan Medal was awarded to British & Egyptian forces between June 1896 and September 1898, and the Khedive s Sudan Medal for the corresponding period.

As Ian said….Wow, what a terrific set of medals to own.

[bif]

Corinne,    

     Very similar to a group I hold.  Do you have info about him ?  Anything may help - name, dob, service #, place of birth and/or death, names of parents or wife; anything at all can help to get info about him ?

[RNCVR]

The 4th medal could be the East & West Africa medal. The clasp on that medal is wider than the AGS medal,  it's hard to tell for certain with that very out of focus photo.

[Andrew Upton]

1 hour ago, Ian Riley said:

...I would suggest following this up with the  Museum of the Highlanders (Seaforth and Camerons) at Fort George. The 8th Seaforth was a New Army Unit raised in 1914 - all the medals before the 'Star' (with the possible exception the DCM will have been won with a Regular battalion either of the Seaforths or some other regiment the details should be on the medal rims...

As they all appear to be miniatures and not the actual full-size medals it is extremely unlikely that any of them will be named...

[RedCoat]

Yes, they are miniatures - proportions and suspensions show that clearly. A superb group, I assume the DCM was for the First World War?

Cheers

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear Corinne,

Where are the large medals, one wonders?

Which is he, in the group photograph?

By any standards a magnificent medal group and a fine memorial to a gallant soldier...

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[RedCoat]

William Curries original Regimental Number was 4216 -

Service Records

William has a superb set of pre First World War service records to be found here - https://www.findmypast.com.au/search/results?sourcecategory=armed+forces+%26+conflict&sid=998&lastname=currie&soldiernumber=4216

His medal entitlement is as follows:

- Distinguished Conduct Medal
- India General Service Medal + Relief of Chitral 1895 clasp
- Queens Sudan Medal 
- Africa General Service Medal + Northern Nigeria 1903 Clasp - (Seaforth Highlanders attached to 1st Battalion Northern Nigeria Regiment) William was also Mentioned in Despatches for this campaign.
- 1914-15 Star
- War Medal
- Victory Medal
- Long Service Good Conduct Medal
- Khedives Sudan Medal + Atbara / Khartoum clasps

Overseas service list from records:

 

Distinguished Conduct Medal

 

Newspapers:

Death:

 

Hope this helps!

 

Cheers

RC

Edited 29 August , 2021 by RedCoat

[Corinne]

2 hours ago, Ian Riley said:

Wow, 

That looks like a Distinguished Conduct Medal, an India General Service Medal (pre 1908 - can't remember the exact dates and can't read the bar), Queen's Sudan Medal, Africa General Service Medal (1902-1956 but can't read the bar but won before 1914), either a 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star (too indistinct to tell at least for my ancient eyes  but as it does not have the clasp - possibly the 1914-15 Star), British War Medal 1914-19, Allied Victory Medal, Regular Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, The Khedive's Sudan medal(awarded for the same campaign as the Queen's Medal I think but as a foreign medal won after all British awards. 

I hope they are somewhere very safe!

I would suggest following this up with the  Museum of the Highlanders (Seaforth and Camerons) at Fort George. The 8th Seaforth was a New Army Unit raised in 1914 - all the medals before the 'Star' (with the possible exception the DCM will have been won with a Regular battalion either of the Seaforths or some other regiment the details should be on the medal rims

 

8th Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders  Just a very quick search as I am on my way to anther site!

 

Hope that helps. The DCM is the second highest award for gallantry for a non-commission officer, soldier or warrant officer (although a Warrant officer could be awarded the Military Cross)

 

Thank you so much. I have had info from this site for the DCM and have recently read the war diary. My cousins have the medals in Canada. It’s the first time I’ve seen a pic of them all properly. I’m the one doing the research.😁

[Corinne]

1 hour ago, RedCoat said:

William Curries original Regimental Number was 4216 -

Service Records

William has a superb set of pre First World War service records to be found here - https://www.findmypast.com.au/search/results?sourcecategory=armed+forces+%26+conflict&sid=998&lastname=currie&soldiernumber=4216

His medal entitlement is as follows:

- Distinguished Conduct Medal
- India General Service Medal + Relief of Chitral 1895 clasp
- Queens Sudan Medal 
- Africa General Service Medal + Northern Nigeria 1903 Clasp - (Seaforth Highlanders attached to 1st Battalion Northern Nigeria Regiment) William was also Mentioned in Despatches for this campaign.
- 1914-15 Star
- War Medal
- Victory Medal
- Long Service Good Conduct Medal
- Khedives Sudan Medal + Atbara / Khartoum clasps

Overseas service list from records:

 

Distinguished Conduct Medal

 

Newspapers:

Death:

 

Hope this helps!

 

Cheers

RC

Wow! This is amazing! Thank you so much!