Can anyone recognize these chaps from names and photo

[arantxa]

Just came in with some bits and bobs 

[arantxa]

I wonder if they made a little Theatre 

[TullochArd]

Great photos arantxa.  Looks like:

D Boe: David Boe, Notts and Derby/RAF (survived)

A Cross: Arthur Cross ("Aviator" Killed in accident 1918) ?

S Burn: Sidney Burn (survived)

WE Wilson: William Wilson, Liverpool Regiment/RAF (survived)

W Labatt:  Wilfred Henry Ernest Labatt, W Yorkshires/RAF (survived)

Edited 2 July , 2021 by TullochArd
Labatt

[tootrock]

The names D. Boe, J.S. Burn, A. Cross and W. Labatt are all found in Ancestry under "UK British Officer Prisoners of War 1914-18".

I suggest that these photos were taken in a POW Camp, and include the camp theatre.

Martin

[topgun1918]

It looks like the common factor is prisoners of war:

The W Labatt - top left in the first picture - could be Wilfred Ernest Henry Labatt, West Yorkshire Regt and No 62 Squadron RAF, shot down in Bristol F.2B F5810 and taken prisoner on 22 July 1918; his pilot, 2nd-Lieut William Eugene Coulson was also taken prisoner but died on 5 September.

Boe was an observer with No 25 Squadron and was taken prisoner on 29 June 1918 when DH4 A7913 was shot down; his pilot, Lieut Bryant Lutellus Lindley MC was killed.

I think the A Cross is more likely to have been Lieut Alwin Stewart Cross, No 32 Sqn, who was shot down in SE5a D268 on 17 May 1918 and taken prisoner.

Graeme

 

 

 

[arantxa]

I hadn't realized that....thank you..i thought they were sitting around a dispersal hut and i wondered why they had a little theatre,,,they didnt in the film aces high !!!

[TullochArd]

 

35 minutes ago, tootrock said:

The names D. Boe, J.S. Burn, A. Cross and W. Labatt are all found in Ancestry under "UK British Officer Prisoners of War 1914-18".

I suggest that these photos were taken in a POW Camp, and include the camp theatre.

Martin

Using same source .......W Wilson ........ Lt WK Wilson?  Reported missing 20 Jun 18. Repatriated 30 Dec 18.

Edited 2 July , 2021 by TullochArd

[arantxa]

do you think at what ever camp they were at there would have been a lot of pilots as the second group picture taken same place but different people are not named

[DavidOwen]

RAF Story Vault has DCS Boe's casualty card listing him as missing and repatriated http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/boe-d.c.s

Similarly for WHE Labatt http://www.rafmuseumstoryvault.org.uk/archive/labatt-w.h.e.-wilfred-henry-ernest

[TullochArd]

4 hours ago, arantxa said:

do you think at what ever camp they were at there would have been a lot of pilots as the second group picture taken same place but different people are not named

Grand Guerre ( Prisoners of the First World War | International Committee of the Red Cross - View the records (icrc.org) ) shows Boe, Labatt, Cross and several other RAF officers) at Off. Gef. Lager. Karlsruhe by Jul/Aug 1918.  Karlsruhe had two camps - the one in the grounds of Karlsruhe Schloss was originally for Naval officers but later included Aviation officers.  It seems likely that this is the place.

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[arantxa]

Thank you

[arantxa]

Sone other pics I see sone are army 

[sadbrewer]

From The Yorkshire Post,August 1918.

Courtesy of the British Newspaper Archive 

In 1923 Labatt was convicted of fraud, but put the offence down to excessive drinking and claimed to be turning over a new leaf and joining the RAF.

 

[arantxa]

That’s interesting isn’t it ..it must be hard to come back from war....not just the sights etc you have seen ...but a lot of people must have been in high positions it company commanded etc and then to go back to say being a salesman

 i guess that’s why we used to have better politicians etc becouse they had been through War and stayed a lot calmer under pressure    

[Open Bolt]

R. Cowper Wilkie, 2nd Royal Scots?

Prisoners of the First World War | International Committee of the Red Cross - Details about the person (icrc.org)

[arantxa]

That’s great thank you ...pinpoints it

thanks a lot 

[nils d]

On 05/07/2021 at 08:09, arantxa said:

 

 i guess that’s why we used to have better politicians etc becouse they had been through War and stayed a lot calmer under pressure    

And knew the meaning of words like "honour"