williywonker Posted 12 June , 2021 Share Posted 12 June , 2021 Fevyer and Wilson’s book, ‘The 1914 Star to the Royal Navy and Royal Marines’ includes the text of Fleet Orders 331 – 1914 star – Preliminary Issue of Riband (MC 19427/17 – 31.8.18) and Fleet Order 6 – 1914 Star – Issue (MC 17433/18 – 2.1.1919). Could any member confirm the meaning of the words in brackets please? Also is there a link to the actual Orders as originally published and is it correct to refer to them as ‘Fleet Order 6 of 1919’ etc as you would Army Order 350 of 1917 for example? Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawryleslie Posted 13 June , 2021 Share Posted 13 June , 2021 (edited) My guess is, although may be wrong, MC stands for Military Communication or Communique. These links will help..... https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xFG-BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=MC+19427\17&source=bl&ots=i4yNsMhx4N&sig=ACfU3U3hQPXx0vkf0vnPKWzcns2rR02tFg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU5fOalZTxAhVDZhQKHRCYA0cQ6AEwA3oECAgQAw#v=onepage&q=MC 19427\17&f=false https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xFG-BAAAQBAJ&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=MC+17433/18&source=bl&ots=i4yNsMhz3Q&sig=ACfU3U3MUI7p9ioz1GSWsX1lrqeA8f-YoA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyzfT2lZTxAhVzAWMBHUlQAUoQ6AEwDXoECA8QAw#v=onepage&q=MC 17433%2F18&f=false Edited 13 June , 2021 by Lawryleslie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 13 June , 2021 Share Posted 13 June , 2021 It is usual practice that [Admiraty] Fleet Orders are headed by the Admiralty departmental/divisional reference which sponsored and authorised the order [Thus N.L. = orders authorised by the Naval Law Divisiom; N.P. = Naval Personnel). I have not been able to pin down the "M.C." prefix, other than to note that it appears to originate in the Department of the Accountant-General of the Navy (AG(N)). Given the context of the 1914 Star award, it is possible that it was handled by a Medals Committee within, or headed by, the AG(N) department. The references quoted are to files/dockets raised by the M.C. secretariat to cover all correspondence, minutes and memoranda within and without the Admiralty. A subject such as the '1914 Star' could see papers filed in one or more such dockets, depending on the detail of the subject matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williywonker Posted 13 June , 2021 Author Share Posted 13 June , 2021 Many thanks for your replies. I have tried to locate the original Fleet Orders in the following link without success https://www.navy.gov.au/media-room/publications/admiralty-fleet-orders/1910-1937 Are you aware if there a particular filing system the Admiralty employed? Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 13 June , 2021 Share Posted 13 June , 2021 The link to the gov.au AFOs is quite useful but it is not comprehensive, listing only "...Orders ... which it is considered essential to retain in print for reference ..." Clearly the 1914 Star AFOs were bot considered "essential" by June 1930 1 hour ago, williywonker said: Are you aware if there a particular filing system the Admiralty employed? There was a 'filing system' which can be considered "particular" or "peculiar" depending on your experience of it. Understanding it (them) will not aid your research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williywonker Posted 15 June , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2021 Many thanks Lawryleslie and Horatio2 for your help. Greatly appreciated. Will keep up the search. Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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