Mark Finneran Posted Thursday at 16:59 Share Posted Thursday at 16:59 There are a lot of ordnance experts out there so could anyone identify the 2 stamps shown? The one above the serial number - Is the one British? Link to post Share on other sites
4thGordons Posted Thursday at 20:10 Share Posted Thursday at 20:10 (edited) The crossed swords stamp does look like the British Proof Mark format SEE HERE I can't clearly make out the letters/numbers on your picture to see if the date is identifiable from this table Chris Edit I am not familiar with the left hand symbol - -it looks like it might resemble the Austro-Hungarian 1891- Vienna 1st proof mark. Edited Thursday at 20:12 by 4thGordons Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBsk Posted Friday at 05:44 Share Posted Friday at 05:44 Left symbol is mostly imperial german army fireproof. Link to post Share on other sites
trajan Posted Sunday at 09:04 Share Posted Sunday at 09:04 What is it on? That might help narrow things down! Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Finneran Posted Sunday at 14:13 Author Share Posted Sunday at 14:13 Well here is the oddity, it is a German 1918 T Gewehr!!! 🤭 Link to post Share on other sites
trajan Posted Sunday at 15:05 Share Posted Sunday at 15:05 47 minutes ago, Mark Finneran said: Well here is the oddity, it is a German 1918 T Gewehr!!! 🤭 Maybe an oddity to you but in the German regulations it is the correct heradlic 'Adler' - eagle- stamp, with weapon number, for a Gew.98 after the barrel and breech chamber have been tested by shooting. Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Finneran Posted Sunday at 15:21 Author Share Posted Sunday at 15:21 Trajan there seems to be a misunderstanding. The left stamp is not in question. It is the stamp above the serial number? This looks like a British (Birmingham?) stamp. This is the one I am hoping an expert could identify. It is odd because IF British, why would there be a stamp? It does not need to be deactivated, and I assume certainly not re-bored? Mark Link to post Share on other sites
trajan Posted Sunday at 16:45 Share Posted Sunday at 16:45 1 hour ago, Mark Finneran said: Trajan there seems to be a misunderstanding. The left stamp is not in question. It is the stamp above the serial number? This looks like a British (Birmingham?) stamp. This is the one I am hoping an expert could identify. It is odd because IF British, why would there be a stamp? It does not need to be deactivated, and I assume certainly not re-bored? Mark Mybe there is a misunderstanding. But the German regulations are for that eagle stamp to be applied on the barrel just before the serial number. This is what you have here, to my eyes, The British stamp has, I think, been identified correctly above. It would help, of course, if you provided more details, e.g., the year and serial number of the rifle as on the receiver! Link to post Share on other sites
4thGordons Posted Sunday at 19:04 Share Posted Sunday at 19:04 3 hours ago, Mark Finneran said: Trajan there seems to be a misunderstanding. The left stamp is not in question. It is the stamp above the serial number? This looks like a British (Birmingham?) stamp. This is the one I am hoping an expert could identify. It is odd because IF British, why would there be a stamp? It does not need to be deactivated, and I assume certainly not re-bored? Mark Would it have needed to be UK viewed if it were sold through the gun trade in the UK at some point? Did the letters correspond to any of those on the table I attached so you could work out the year? Chris Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Finneran Posted Sunday at 19:11 Author Share Posted Sunday at 19:11 (edited) Trajan thanks again for the interest. In case my first post was not clear I am trying to identify the stamp ABOVE the serial number. The rifle has all matching numbers, ie the serial number shown and is a T Gewehr so no confusion on date - 1918. Chris maybe it is some UK insp mark which seems credible but from googling London and Birmingham Proof Houses the symbol is not quite close enough to the Birmingham examples. Here is one poster from google, and there are key differences. Strange. Even if stamped upside down! Plus as it has been in ‘obsolete ‘ category why would it be inspected? huge thanks Mark Edited Sunday at 19:14 by Mark Finneran Link to post Share on other sites
4thGordons Posted Sunday at 20:26 Share Posted Sunday at 20:26 (edited) Apparently my first link doesn't work This is what I posted: which does seem to be what you have. What are the letters on yours I cannot be sure form the image If they are R C over 8 that would appear to be a 1990 dated mark for inspector 8? SOURCE Click Edited Sunday at 20:27 by 4thGordons Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Finneran Posted Monday at 04:40 Author Share Posted Monday at 04:40 Chris thanks I think you have nailed it. great info. Mark Link to post Share on other sites
trajan Posted Monday at 05:29 Share Posted Monday at 05:29 10 hours ago, Mark Finneran said: Trajan thanks again for the interest. In case my first post was not clear I am trying to identify the stamp ABOVE the serial number. The rifle has all matching numbers, ie the serial number shown and is a T Gewehr so no confusion on date - 1918. Thanaks for clarification! I had wondered if you were thinking the 'Birmingham' stamp and serial number went together. Link to post Share on other sites
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