Neill Gilhooley Posted 14 June , 2021 Share Posted 14 June , 2021 MacDowell 172874 wounded at duty 30.3.18 and GSW left hand 13.4.18, MM granted for bravery in the field. This does not help... present in both battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 14 June , 2021 Share Posted 14 June , 2021 (edited) On 14/06/2021 at 15:23, Neill Gilhooley said: Johnston 172886 awarded posthumously according to grandson, KIA 12.4.18 If Johnston was KIA on 12th April then his MM was not for an action on that date. MMs were not awarded to those killed in the action for which they were awarded. A soldier had to be alive (inc. wounded) when the recommendation for a MM award was made. The 9th Bn. MMs in that gazette must have been for the same action in late March, as the schedule numbers are in the same number range: Stewart 172873 MacDowell 172874 McConachie 172875 Telfer 172876 Dobbin 172877 served F&F 23.11.16, wounded 31.3.18, bar to MM August 18 Scott 172878 Bird 172879 served F&F 13.7.16 Telford 172880 (Bar - 1st MM 12-12-1917) Kyles 172881 MacCorquodale 172883 Sherratt 172884 Duffy 172885 Johnston 172886 awarded posthumously according to grandson, KIA 12.4.18 Dagg 172887 MacKenzie 172888 Young 172889 Watson 172890 (Bar - 1st MM 18-10-1917) Ramsay 172891 McBrearty 172892 if PoW 22.3.18 - MMs must be for no later than 22nd - 21st? Brown 172894 White 172895 Fairley 172898 severely wounded 30.3.18, died of wounds 5.4.18 Roy 172899 Garry 172900 873-900 inclusive implies that at least 28 MMs were awarded to the 9th Bn. in this gazette for around 21st March 1918! Edited 16 June , 2021 by Ivor Anderson Additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 15 June , 2021 Share Posted 15 June , 2021 Excellent Ivor, that is really good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 15 June , 2021 Share Posted 15 June , 2021 Thanks Neill. I found and added a few more there. Here is Thomas Garry's MM Index Card image from TNA (WO-372-23-109575). All these MMs have the same RP no. (68/121/554) which shows that they were recommended together. It takes time to pinpoint them all. There are some to 2nd Bn. in the same LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 15 June , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2021 Thanks ivor for the fantastic information I am currently in correspondence with local historical group regarding this man to get him a headstone.in his local cemetery. I guess only he knew what he was awarded the MM for. Regards Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 15 June , 2021 Share Posted 15 June , 2021 With so many MMs being awarded there must have been some DCMs too. The 3rd September and 30th October 1918 LGs have some 9th Bn. DCM citations that may be connected. The situation implies a significant attack. Citations sometimes followed DCMs at a later date: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30879/supplement/10311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 James Robert Jamieson's MM was at Arras (9-11 Apr 17), then a Bar to MM at Cambrai (20-24 Nov 17, according to Ewing, in his regtl history, he distinguished himself in reorganising leaderless troops). An NZ newspaper simply says his DCM was won 'a little time ago' (published 13 Jul 18), before it appeared in the Gazette (3 Sep 18). David Walker's MM was Arras (Apr 17) and DCM was 25 Mar 18, again by reference to Ewing, but the Royal High, Edinburgh lists it as May 18, Gazette (3 Sep 18). John Fraser's DCM was for 1 Aug 18 (The Fifteenth (Scottish) Division by Stewart and Buchan), LG (30 Oct 18). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 On 14/06/2021 at 18:06, Ivor Anderson said: Telford 172880 (Bar - 1st MM 12-12-1917) I have William Telford MM for gallantry 20/21 Sep 17 (51st Div War Diary) Do we mean William Telfer (p.8329 LG 16.7.18)? Ewing singles him out for 28 Mar 18 On 14/06/2021 at 18:06, Ivor Anderson said: Watson 172890 (Bar - 1st MM 18-10-1917) I have a James Watson MM for service between 2.7 and 7.8.17, date of award 21.8.17 (51st Div War Diary) On p.8330 I have a John White but no Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 On 16/06/2021 at 18:39, Neill Gilhooley said: Do we mean William Telfer (p.8329 LG 16.7.18)? Ewing singles him out for 28 Mar 18 Telford & Watson's second MMs are in the MM & Bar section at the start of the LG (there are Telfer & White MMs too): We still have another 4 MMs to the 9th Bn. to find in that LG (882,893, 896, 897): https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30797/supplement/8311 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 Found another one - schedule no. 172893 - 3 to go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 40095 William F Geddes 172897 1 hour ago, Ivor Anderson said: Telford & Watson's second MMs are in the MM & Bar section at the start of the LG Thanks for this, knew I must have gone awry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 350669 William E Holland 172896 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 352460 Forbes McNeill 172882 I guess that is the list? Curiously I have no previous reference for JS Andrews (330203 not 330230 as in LG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 (edited) Great work Neill. Who needs jigsaws when we have LGs? For one battalion to get 28 MMs in one action/period! They must have really held the line during the German Spring Offensive! Stewart 172873 MacDowell 172874 McConachie 172875 Telfer 172876 Dobbin 172877 served F&F 23.11.16, wounded 31.3.18, bar to MM August 18 Scott 172878 Bird 172879 served F&F 13.7.16 Telford 172880 (Bar - 1st MM 12-12-1917) Kyles 172881 Forbes 172882 MacCorquodale 172883 Sherratt 172884 Duffy 172885 Johnston 172886 awarded posthumously according to grandson, KIA 12.4.18 Dagg 172887 MacKenzie 172888 Young 172889 Watson 172890 (Bar - 1st MM 18-10-1917) Ramsay 172891 McBrearty 172892 if PoW 22.3.18 - MMs must be for no later than 22nd - 21st? Andrews 172893 Brown 172894 White 172895 Holland 172896 Geddes 172897 Fairley 172898 severely wounded 30.3.18, died of wounds 5.4.18 Roy 172899 Garry 172900 Edited 16 June , 2021 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neill Gilhooley Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 6 minutes ago, Ivor Anderson said: Who needs jigsaws when we have LGs? Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 June , 2021 Share Posted 16 June , 2021 The war diary for the end of March 1918 records heavy casualties for the month (inc. officers) TNA ref. WO-95-1954-1. They had almost daily moves/withdrawals from 21st March on. The MMs would fit into this period. They had a draft of 528 on 6th April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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