Interpreting Pension Ledgers & Index Cards

[Kiegsien]

I have already received help from Russ in regards as to where the 2/7th Royal Scots were. I now need some help as to what some of the information on these cards actually means.

I understand D of D.

 

 

I know 38801/H was his Chelsea No.

 

 

 

Think I understand the centre piece and is that Separation Allowance on the right?

 

The full cards are on my thread 2/7th Battalion Royal Scots on Soldiers.

 

Many thanks for any light that can be thrown on these.

[Michelle Young]

Here is the other thread

[Matlock1418]

 

On 01/06/2021 at 12:27, Kiegsien said:

I know 38801/H was his Chelsea No.

11/M/389377

A Ministry of Pensions claim reference [disability claim it would appear]

11 = SE England Region

M = Military claim

389377 = Claim number

[the corresponding ledgers seem to be lost - as are the vast majority of claim files themselves/couldn't find his listed amongst the few retained as PIN 26 files at TNA]

 

SAI 1629

I believe related to a personal identification [would be on a document that he required in order to claim his pension at a Post Office I think]

:-) M

Edited 2 June , 2021 by Matlock1418
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[Kiegsien]

Thank you so much Matlock. Interesting about the disability, perhaps that was why he was discharged in 1917. I was not aware of anything but I was only 6 when he died.

[ss002d6252]

My existing records show that 38801/H would date from between 30 May 1917 and 07 June 1917 and so the admission date of 30 May 1917 from the card would indicate that the 38801/H is his original Chelsea number from the date of discharge (men were sometimes allocated new Chelsea numbers at a later date but not in this case).

 

Craig

[Kiegsien]

Thank you Craig. Only just seen this, I didn't get an email to say someone had added to the thread. Any ideas about the dates & numbers & letters on the one with red writing please? 

[ss002d6252]

 

 

4433 Suffolk D(ischarge) D(ocument)'s called up under 38801H, Sent to London Region. 31/12/21

There must have been some query in Dec 1921 where they sent for the file being held under the Chelsea number so that they could deal with that query.

Craig

 

[Kiegsien]

Thanks Craig, that's probably why I couldn't find his service records when he was 4433 in the 1st Suffolks, they were added to his WW1 records & all went up in smoke in WW2!!

 

Any idea what the dates & letters down the left hand side mean, please?

[Matlock1418]

34 minutes ago, Kiegsien said:

Any idea what the dates & letters down the left hand side mean, please?

On the card "Bd" probably means a Board - with dates for this ... and other matters.

Many of such annotations on cards usually seem to relate to the adminstration of the claim, often annotated with initials etc. - despatch/movement/receipt of documents and files etc. - and not necessarily the event itself

I'll leave Craig to potentially answer the other bits which as I comment seem related to the administration of the claim.

:-) M

[Kiegsien]

Thanks Matlock, every little bit helps my understanding for when I write about my grandfather's life.