Steve1871 Posted 27 March , 2022 Author Share Posted 27 March , 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 4 April , 2022 Author Share Posted 4 April , 2022 Rifle #42. 4/4/22 M71/84 Mauser Date. 1888 Maker. Amberg Sn: 85482. Matching Unit. Not clear Bavarian This rifle, except for butt plate is mostly excellent. The rifle must have been stored somewhere where water or moisture was on floor. The butt plate still can read a little, B. (?). R or B. Next an E or L, no can read the number(s) at end, for a Bavarian unit. The rifle has no dents or scratches except by edge of floor plate end of about a cm. The stamping in woodwork are excellent , crisp r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 5 April , 2022 Share Posted 5 April , 2022 Very nice bavarian produced and proofed G71/84 rifle, question remains the first digit behind the B, as this denote the Regiment, E should be for Ersatz Battalion probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 16 May , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2022 Rifle #43. 5/15/22 M71/84. Date. 1887 Maker. Spandau Sn. 2828 Unit. K.F.R.E.2.149 The Spandau’s seem to have been least used, as they are usually found exelent to near mint, only very minor scuff on side of butt , unit seems interesting, I know someone told me (GWF) what it was, but I forgot. Near new. Forgot take group photos with other stuff, but have a variety of bayonets/ cartridge boxes,/sealed original boxes ammo/and original barrel rods to go with these 71/84’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 16 May , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2022 Rifle #44. 5/16/22 M71/84 Date 1887 Maker. Erfurt Sn. 1990 Unit. 69.R.16.121 A M71/84 showing its age, but still good. A very hard maker to find, Bluing turning patina but still a great find/ Erfurt. 69th Infantry Regiment, but 16 th company, I am not sure how many companies a regiment can have. Still has crisp stock cartouche’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 16 May , 2022 Share Posted 16 May , 2022 (edited) very nice rifles, the 43 is nearly crisp, i assume the unit is Garde Grenadier Regiment nr.2 called Kaiser Franz so the unit is shortened to KFR, i assume there is Ersatz battalion , 2.company and weapon nr. the 44 rifle is unit marked to 69IR has in wiki mentioned the IV Battalion was there in period 1893-97 so the 16.Company should be last one of the 4.Battalion, by some units was the number of companies changed in history. Edited 16 May , 2022 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 16 May , 2022 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2022 Thanks Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 18 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 August , 2022 (edited) RIFLE # 45 8/17/22 71/84 JAEGER DATE 1886 1886 MAKER SPANDAU Sn 2380 matching unit G.S.1.147. GUARDE SOMETHING? THE JAEGER TERM has been used for a very long time here in the states,and think in a few books, all it was, adding a sling swivel farther back,screw and swivel are marked,my friend Paul has one in his collection,I asked him for pics of his to compair with mine,same position and size/shape base,he asked me to identify his unit too if you guys could help,will add his in just a few min here. Edited 18 August , 2022 by Steve1871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 18 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 18 August , 2022 Rifle # 46 71/84 Jaeger. My friend Paul’s rifle to compare and I’d his unit please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AndyBsk Posted 18 August , 2022 Share Posted 18 August , 2022 (edited) Steve the rifle is in excellent condition, i assume Your unit is Garde Schuetzen Battalion , 1.company and weapon nr. 147 Your friends piece could be unit marked for Garde Schutzen Battalion, also same unit, Rekruten Depot, weapon nr.81 Edited 18 August , 2022 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 21 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2022 In case you guy’s were wondering if I have a Mauser made. Mauser 71/84, answer is YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 21 August , 2022 Author Share Posted 21 August , 2022 (edited) Rifle #46. 8/21/22 71/84 Date. 1887. 87. Made and issued. Maker. Mauser. Sn: 2141A. Matching. Unit. 124.R.5.168. 124 Infantry Regiment 5th Co. #168. An early Mauser made example, being an “A” series/block serial number, which is odd, being three to three and a half years into production. I can only guess they were busy with other work and were slow to ramp up production. Where the other makers usually used just the last 2 numbers in serializing the parts, Mauser here still try to use last three, except the screws of coarse. Overall, still in very good condition, showing some wear. The stock has some Excellent cartouche’s. A scarce, almost rare maker to find now Edited 21 August , 2022 by Steve1871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 21 August , 2022 Share Posted 21 August , 2022 (edited) This is a interesting rifle, even some parts chemically entrostet, Mauser Oberndorf didnt made many Gew71/84 rifles as majority were done in State Armories, the 124.IR confirm this reality as Wurttemberg 6.Infantry regiment, and only Wurttemberg Kingdom ordered directly at home by Mauser fabrik. Its a contract for 19000 IG71/84 which Your fully corespond as A range also wout suffix is the first 10000 pcs and this is 12141 pcs. Contract was signed summer 1886. Edited 21 August , 2022 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 1 September , 2022 Author Share Posted 1 September , 2022 Rifle #47. 9/01/22 71/84 Mauser Date. 1887. Maker. Danzig. Sn: 9819 S. Matching Unit. 10.R.R.103 First off, the unit is odd to me, because it does not have a company number, even a recruitment regiment might fit? I sure Andy will know. the metal overall is mottled from storage conditions but has no rust at all. Wood is very good, slight scratches here and there with some crisp cartouche’s. The most common 71/84’s to be found are by Spandau, followed by Amberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 1 September , 2022 Share Posted 1 September , 2022 Nice rifle as obvious in Your collection, unit marking should be easy explain, 10. Inf. Regiment, Rekruten Depot waffe nr. 163. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 1 September , 2022 Author Share Posted 1 September , 2022 Great help, and quick, as always Andy, thanks.I was not sure how many Rekruten Depots there were, if the number 10 was too high......... Do you know how many Rekruten Depots Germany had?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert.f Posted 1 September , 2022 Share Posted 1 September , 2022 Hello. 10.R.R.163 - Ersatz -Bataillon des 10. Infanterie- Regiments . Rekruten-Depot, wafe nr.163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 1 September , 2022 Author Share Posted 1 September , 2022 I do not know how you get an ERSATZ battalion there Bert.F??? both you and Andy know a lot more than me, hopefully Julian will pipe in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 2 September , 2022 Share Posted 2 September , 2022 (edited) Its not a Ersatz Battalion as there should be number of company, the designation of 10.Grenadier Regiment Friedrich Wilhelm II. follows: "02.08.1914 [1] : Das Regiment wurde gemäß Mobilmachungsplan mobilisiert. Neben dem ins Feld rückende Regiment stellte es ein Ersatz-Bataillon zu 4 Kompanien, sowie zwei Rekruten-Depots auf." So 2 Rekrutendepots were formed in 1914, normally it were used only one in peacetime. The unit is of Schlesien, so the Danzig production is nearest to this. Edited 2 September , 2022 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve1871 Posted 3 September , 2022 Author Share Posted 3 September , 2022 Thank’s for all your support and interest in this post to reach 10K views, time for me to celebrate a little for this milestone!!!! Break out the Champagne 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert.f Posted 4 September , 2022 Share Posted 4 September , 2022 Hello, Steve. On 01/09/2022 at 21:34, Steve1871 said: I do not know how you get an ERSATZ battalion there Bert.F??? both you and Andy know a lot more than me, hopefully Julian will pipe in! I checked it up in the book " Handbook of German weapon stamps" . Two non - italic R, no company number, only weapon number Replacement battalion of the 10 IR , recruit depot, weapon nr 163. Hello, Andy. You can give the name of your information source ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBsk Posted 4 September , 2022 Share Posted 4 September , 2022 (edited) Source is genwiki and 10.Gren.Regt. https://genwiki.genealogy.net/Gren.R_10 Ersatz Battalion per german manual 1897 year should be allways stamped by E. behind the main unit. Then a number of company. Rekruten Depot is marked by second R. Edited 4 September , 2022 by AndyBsk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 4 September , 2022 Share Posted 4 September , 2022 Well done Steve! Go easy on the champers though! Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 4 September , 2022 Share Posted 4 September , 2022 3 hours ago, bert.f said: ...I checked it up in the book " Handbook of German weapon stamps" . Two non - italic R, no company number, only weapon number I guess you mean Wacker and Goertz Handbuch? The 'R.R.' code was brought in with the 1909 Regulations. Note that if there were two recruiting depots then this would be indicated by a serial such as '10.R.R.2.186', the '2' indicating the second recruiting depot. Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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