SoldatJV Posted 19 May , 2021 Share Posted 19 May , 2021 Good day, everyone, Can anyone please help with identifying the associated regiment for this cap? Believe it's pre-WW1 3rd Dragoon Guards. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 19 May , 2021 Share Posted 19 May , 2021 3rd (Prince of Wales’s Own) Dragoon Guards forage cap 1906 is correct. It replaced the pill box type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldatJV Posted 19 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 May , 2021 (edited) Thanks, FROGSMILE. I notice in the picture that it has yellow piping around the top and mine doesn't? Edited 19 May , 2021 by SoldatJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 20 May , 2021 Share Posted 20 May , 2021 On 20/05/2021 at 08:35, SoldatJV said: Thanks, FROGSMILE. I notice in the picture that it has yellow piping around the top and mine doesn't? Yes that seems odd. I don’t know the answer, but most of the coloured forage caps introduced in 1906 did have piping around the top edge. The buttons are army general service pattern, but it’s not difficult to retrofit them to make an obscure cap more attractive. I don’t know what other organisation or unit might have worn such a cap. I vaguely recall Royal Canadian Mounted Police wearing something similar for a period, but I’m unsure when. Another possibility might be a Yeomanry regiment if there was one with yellow facings. Again, I am unsure. NB. two possibilities worth investigation are the King’s Own Norfolk Yeomanry, and the Sussex Yeomanry, who apparently both had yellow facings. Image of contemporary forage cap (1906) courtesy of the Worcestershire Regiment museum under fair dealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldatJV Posted 20 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 20 May , 2021 7 hours ago, FROGSMILE said: Yes that seems odd. I don’t know the answer, but most of the coloured forage caps introduced in 1906 did have piping around the top edge. The buttons are army general service pattern, but it’s not difficult to retrofit them to make an obscure cap more attractive. I don’t know what other organisation or unit might have worn such a cap. I vaguely recall Royal Canadian Mounted Police wearing something similar for a period, but I’m unsure when. Another possibility might be a Yeomanry regiment if there was one with yellow facings. Again, I am unsure. NB. two possibilities worth investigation are the King’s Own Norfolk Yeomanry, and the Sussex Yeomanry. Image of contemporary forage cap (1906) courtesy of the Worcestershire Regiment museum under fair dealing. I'm starting to think you're right. It could be Royal Northwest Mounted Police or Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Again, many thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 20 May , 2021 Share Posted 20 May , 2021 9 minutes ago, SoldatJV said: I'm starting to think you're right. It could be Royal Northwest Mounted Police or Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Again, many thanks for your help. I’m sorry I couldn’t be more positive. The RCMP seems like a possibility. If it was Yeomanry I’d expect to see regimental rather than GS buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broznitsky Posted 21 May , 2021 Share Posted 21 May , 2021 If the provenance of the hat is before 1920, then it is likely a Royal Northwest Mounted Police forage or duty hat. (The RCMP did not exist until 1920.) The RNWP serving in France and Flanders would have worn the khaki soft hat that everybody wore. In England the yellow ribbon hat may have been worn. It is common for police officers to trade hats, either formally or informally. I can't tell you how many Bobby helmets I have seen in Canadian detachments. So it could be a post-war trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 21 May , 2021 Share Posted 21 May , 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Broznitsky said: If the provenance of the hat is before 1920, then it is likely a Royal Northwest Mounted Police forage or duty hat. (The RCMP did not exist until 1920.) The RNWP serving in France and Flanders would have worn the khaki soft hat that everybody wore. In England the yellow ribbon hat may have been worn. It is common for police officers to trade hats, either formally or informally. I can't tell you how many Bobby helmets I have seen in Canadian detachments. So it could be a post-war trade. It would help to know if RNWMP and/or RCMP used general service buttons as seen in the original poster’s photos, although as mentioned they might have been retrofitted to add a missing chin strap. Edited 21 May , 2021 by FROGSMILE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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