Stevend Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 I am researching this soldier who was killed on the 28th June 1915. What i would like to ask is where was this Regiment in the Gallipoli campaign and what there losses were this day. Also any personal information on pte Shedden would be appreciated. Regards Steven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 have you more information, where he was from...lived...age...family etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 (edited) Steven Have a look at this previous post: https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/73574-7th-8th-bns-cameronians-scottish-rifles/ and here: https://astreetnearyou.org/regiment/211/Cameronians-(Scottish-Rifles) Dave Edited 18 May , 2021 by HERITAGE PLUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 18 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Hi Dave Many thanks for the info Hi sadbrewer that was one of my requests for any personal information about him. He served in the 5th battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 18 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2021 My mistake sorry he was in the 7th battalion. Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lang Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 6 hours ago, Stevend said: I am researching this soldier who was killed on the 28th June 1915. What i would like to ask is where was this Regiment in the Gallipoli campaign and what there losses were this day. Also any personal information on pte Shedden would be appreciated. Regards Steven. The War Diary is available for download from the National Archives. If you create an account prior to the download, there will be no charge (at present due to the pandemic). Search results: WO 95 7 Cameronians | The National Archives The WD for the month of June, 1915, includes a sketch map which may be helpful. Kindest Regards, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock1418 Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Pension record cards at WFA show his mother Mrs Isabella Shedden lived at 883 Govan Road, Govan, Glasgow. :-) M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 18 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Thanks guys very much appreciated Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 His is listed on the Glasgow Roll of Honour as: SHEDDEN William Private Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 883 Govan Road S and on the Govan High School memorial at The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project :: View topic - Govan High School WW1 (bizhat.com) and on the Govan Elder Street Church memorial at The Scottish Military Research Group - Commemorations Project :: View topic - Govan Old Church WW1 Memorials (bizhat.com) Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 18 May , 2021 Share Posted 18 May , 2021 On the excellent Long , long trail site Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) – The Long, Long Trail (longlongtrail.co.uk) "1 July 1915: after taking heavy casualties, temporarily merged with 1/8th Bn." Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 18 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 18 May , 2021 Thanks Ken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmorrison Posted 19 May , 2021 Share Posted 19 May , 2021 He is listed on the 1891 census (aged 2 Months) in Govan with father James, mother Isabella (Dalrymple) and siblings - and on the 1901 (aged 10) There is also a link to the family grave (in Govan?) where he is named Global, Find a Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current - Ancestry.co.uk Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevend Posted 19 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 19 May , 2021 Ken thank you very much for this photo. I live not far from the cemetery Regards Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy26 Posted 25 May , 2021 Share Posted 25 May , 2021 Steven, from his enlistment number it looks like he enlisted November 1914. Cheers, Smithy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 25 May , 2021 Share Posted 25 May , 2021 The British Red Cross & Order Of St John Enquiry Lists, Wounded & Missing, 1914-1919, are transcribed on FMP; they record two entries for William Shedden (one enquiry on 30/8/1916, the other on 26/1/1915); both give him as a member of B Company, 7th Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) missing since 28/6/1915. I'm afraid I don't know how these enquiries worked, but knowing he was in B Company might just be helpful when reading the battalion War Diary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy26 Posted 26 May , 2021 Share Posted 26 May , 2021 Pat, the Red Cross enquiries were submitted by the families. When the fate of a man was not certain ie. no body recovered and no definitive news of death or capture, the War Department would send a Telegram to the relative stating he was "Missing in Action". The Red Cross (HQ in Switzerland and therefore a neutral party) was used by families to enquire with the Germans / Turks / Bulgarians on the missing man, to see if he was a Prisoner. Often the family would put out more than 1 request for info, in the hope the man was still alive (I assume you meant 26/01/1916 for the 2nd date you quoted). Sadly the answer, as in this case, would often be "Negatif envoye" which roughly translates as No Word ie. no sign of the man being a POW and no info on his whereabouts. Before the communication line via the Red Cross was set up, the families would place adverts in Newspapers enquiring if any of the man's comrades who had been in the same battle had any news of their fate. This would actually continue after the RC was involved, as families who got no comeback from them, would be desperate for news. The Red Cross records are an important piece of the story of the Great War. I have used them a lot to get details on Cameronian POWs. Cheers, Smithy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Atkins Posted 26 May , 2021 Share Posted 26 May , 2021 Thanks Smithy, that's very helpful - I've come across the "negatif envoye' in the Red Cross POW records, but didn't put two-and-two together! Much appreciated. pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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