GWF1967 Posted 14 May , 2021 Share Posted 14 May , 2021 Hi, I purchased a half German Erkennungsmarke- Identity tag and would appreciate some help to make sense of the markings please. I believe it is named to Hermann Thoms, B. 22/3/1898, who came from Wismar, was living on Gerbersrase 36, and was serving with an Ersatz Battalion, Jaeger Regiment 162. The rear of the tag is marked, "I.R 84. 2.R. N. 1351" Infantry Regiment 84, 2nd Reserve Company. No. 1351? I'd appreciate if someone could offer corrections, interpret the "Rekr. Dep A N/620" marks, or tell me any further information regarding the Great War service of Hermann Thoms please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 14 May , 2021 Share Posted 14 May , 2021 (edited) There was no Jäger Regiment 162 during WW1 He got it from Ersatzbataillon of Rekrutendepot A of Infanterie Regiment 162 and later (?) served with 2. Kompanie IR 84. Both Schleswig-Holstein, both IX. AK. In Germany at that time J=I. GreyC Edited 14 May , 2021 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 14 May , 2021 Share Posted 14 May , 2021 (edited) There was a Hermann Thom registered as missing with the same day and month of birth from Mecklenburg (Wismar is in Mecklenburg) who went missing at the end of 1917 / start of 1918 and later reported as POW. Maybe that´s why you could purchase this half of his Erkennungsmarke. I did not find any person of that name with matching unit or birthdate who was KIA or WIA. I did find one Herrmann Thom as POW with same 22.3. birth dates, in the IRC data, though I don´t think the units match. Maybe Charlie2 can help better. GreyC Edited 14 May , 2021 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 14 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 14 May , 2021 1 hour ago, GreyC said: There was a Hermann Thom registered as missing with the same day and month of birth from Mecklenburg (Wismar is in Mecklenburg) who went missing at the end of 1917 / start of 1918 and later reported as POW. Maybe that´s why you could purchase this half of his Erkennungsmarke. I did not find any person of that name with matching unit or birthdate who was KIA or WIA. I did find one Herrmann Thom as POW with same 22.3. birth dates, in the IRC data, though I don´t think the units match. Maybe Charlie2 can help better. GreyC Many thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 Hermann Wilhelm Ludwig Thoms, was taken PoW at Havrincourt 20.11.17. His number, address Regt, Company etc in the ICRC document are the same as on the ID disc - 2/IR84 https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/199577/1/2/ Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 15 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2021 5 hours ago, charlie2 said: Hermann Wilhelm Ludwig Thoms, was taken PoW at Havrincourt 20.11.17. His number, address Regt, Company etc in the ICRC document are the same as on the ID disc - 2/IR84 https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/199577/1/2/ Charlie Many thanks indeed Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 12 minutes ago, GWF1967 said: Many thanks indeed Charlie. Happy to help. The 1st and 2nd Bns of IR84 were manning the front line on 20th Nov and were practicaly wiped out. The Regt suffered the loss of 38 Officers and 1662 NCOs and men. https://portal.dnb.de/bookviewer/view/1031690972#page/66/mode/2up For the life of me I cannot find him in the casualty lists. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWF1967 Posted 15 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2021 2 minutes ago, charlie2 said: Happy to help. The 1st and 2nd Bns of IR84 were manning the front line on 20th Nov and were practicaly wiped out. The Regt suffered the loss of 38 Officers and 1662 NCOs and men. https://portal.dnb.de/bookviewer/view/1031690972#page/66/mode/2up For the life of me I cannot find him in the casualty lists. Charlie Thanks again. Do you happen to know which units they were facing at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 I can only narrow it down to the 62nd Division. Part of map 11 from volume 13 of the German OH Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyC Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 (edited) Hi Charlie, great find! I don´t know why I didn´t find the ICRC document , but I found him in the Loss-list! http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7571258 http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7717637 GreyC Edited 15 May , 2021 by GreyC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 15 May , 2021 Share Posted 15 May , 2021 2 hours ago, GreyC said: great find! I don´t know why I didn´t find the ICRC document , but I found him in the Loss-list! Well done as well, we got there It was no wonder that I couldn‘t find him, I was fixated on Wismar and Mecklenburg-Schwerin Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GWF1967 Posted 15 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 May , 2021 7 hours ago, charlie2 said: I can only narrow it down to the 62nd Division. Part of map 11 from volume 13 of the German OH Charlie 6 hours ago, GreyC said: Hi Charlie, great find! I don´t know why I didn´t find the ICRC document , but I found him in the Loss-list! http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7571258 http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7717637 GreyC Many thanks to you both for your time and expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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