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Hello

i got this recently my sisiter has it and sent me some pics i will put up beter photos when i get it

can anyone id the chap of the photo ir tell me any info

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Hi 

Looking at the signature on the 3rd picture I would suggest 

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Commanding officers[edit]

The following commanded the battalion during its service:[11][67]

  • Lt-Col William Burges from 1 September 1914 to 12 August 1915
  • Lt-Col Martin Archer-Shee from 12 August 1915 to 22 October 1916
  • Maj W.A.R. Blennerhassett acting from 22 October to 20 November 1916
  • Lt-Col Robert Rawson from 20 November 1916 to 25 October 1917
  • Lt-Col Henry Colt from 25 October 1917, wounded 24 August 1918
  • Lt-Col Robert Rawson returned 24 August, promoted Brigadier-General 1 September 1918
  • Lt-Col Henry Colt returned 1 September 1918 to disbandment

from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_(Service)_Battalion,_Gloucestershire_Regiment_(Bristol's_Own)

 

regards

Jon

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Ah, but looking at the date presented (1939) doesn't fit as he died in 1935! (oops)

Perhaps a relative of his then?

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i would have said the surname eas as you said

i think i will get that book thanks

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Archer-Shee.

The Winslow Boy's father by any chance?

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Ta jonbem.

Brother/half.

That document  might be quite sought after arantxa.

(ie. Worth a bob or two to the right buyer...)

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Here is the 1911 census on ANCESTRY

in case any of the family match up, looking at the signature again it "could" be Frances E Archer Shee (note below is Edith Frances Archer Shee.

Name Age
Martin Archer Shee 37
Frances Archer Shee 32
John Pill Archer Shee 4
Richard Martin Archer Shee 3
Edith Frances Archer Shee 2
Kathleen Winifred Archer Shee 2
Lucy Mary Archer Shee 11/12
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If the bloke in the picture is Martin Archer Shee HERE is an MIC on Ancestry

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i wont get it till end of May as I said to my sister because of the glass not to post it !! so i will have to wait ,,,,and im not good at waiting  lol 

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1.  Frances Pell  - daughter of Alfred Pell and niece of J Pierpoint Morgan:

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2.  From a family tree on ancestry:

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JP

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wow what is the connection to the 12th Gloucesters then if he was 19th hussars

 

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this has come with 40 very large photographs which i will get in a few days and put up here as they didnt have glass

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1 minute ago, arantxa said:

wow what is the connection to the 12th Gloucesters then if he was 19th hussars

 

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Archer-Shee

Boer War[edit]

In 1890 he resigned from the navy in order to enter the Royal Military College Sandhurst and to become an officer in the British Army.[1] He obtained a commission as second lieutenant in the 19th Hussars on 15 March 1893, and was promoted to lieutenant on 7 February 1897. He served in the Second Boer War 1899–1902, where he took part in operations in Natal, including the defence of Ladysmith, then in the Transvaal from July to November 1900.[3] The award of the Distinguished Service Order (DSO) (dated 29 November 1900) for his services during the early part of the war, was announced in the September 1901 South African Honours list.[4] In February 1902 he was wounded near Kromdraal when he captured enemy soldiers (mentioned in despatches 25 April 1902[5]), and he was invalided home in May that year,[6] shortly before the official end of hostilities. Following the war he was promoted to captain on 15 August 1902,[7] and received the rank of brevet major a week later on 22 August 1902.[8] He resigned from the army in 1905.[1]

 

First World War[edit]

With the outbreak of war in 1914, Archer-Shee rejoined the army. He was promoted to lieutenant-colonel, and commanded three different infantry battalions during the conflict: the 12th (Service) Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment (Bristol's Own), the 2/4th Battalion York and Lancaster Regiment and the 10th Battalion King's Own Scottish Borderers. He was mentioned in dispatches four times, and was made a Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George for his services.[1] Following an altercation in Parliament, Noel Pemberton Billing offered Archer-Shee a duel by boxing in public for charity; Archer-Shee declined.[11]

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Thank you ..it will be interesting to see what the other photographs are

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I think between us we have done some excellent archive and investigation work here. i look forward to seeing the photos.

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Yes fantastic i think you should get whisky in the officers Mess !!!

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4 minutes ago, arantxa said:

Yes fantastic i think you should get whisky in the officers Mess !!!

A large Asbach brandy in the Pedants Bar will suffice. :thumbsup:

(unless the other photos show us barking up the wrong tree! :o)

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And defn the 21yr old rather than the 8yr old !!!!

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That’s a very Interesting read thanks it’s defn him

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Yes I had a read through. I noticed they spent a month in Wensleydale, just 12 miles down the road from me in Swaledale.

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