peregrinvs Posted 9 May , 2021 Share Posted 9 May , 2021 Would be interested in some opinions on the originality of this 1908 Pattern bayonet frog. The price paid was expensive for a repro, but very reasonable for an original. (Assuming the black stuff will clean off) I had a good look at it and decided it was worth a gamble. What do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_C Posted 9 May , 2021 Share Posted 9 May , 2021 Almost certainly Ulster Special Constabulary -“B Specials”. 2nd issue pattern, not a copy and in nice order, especially if you can get some/all of the dye out of it. Pattern 1908 frogs in good condition have never been easy to find, so a good call in buying it in my opinion. Alternatively there’s a skeleton USC set for sale on the internet at the moment, with a very tatty frog ! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted 12 May , 2021 Share Posted 12 May , 2021 Looking at style of rivets, patination and pattern of weave, I would say that it has some good age to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peregrinvs Posted 12 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2021 The result after a couple of soaks in dye remover. I’m now almost certain it is a real one and it has been added to my P08 set to replace a repro frog. Just need to do the same with the repro helve carrier now... 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggoner Posted 12 May , 2021 Share Posted 12 May , 2021 Very nice! What does the strap at the bottom attach to? All the best, Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peregrinvs Posted 12 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2021 The helve carrier. Original ones are one of the hardest items of P08 to find. http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1908/carriers_etool.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted 13 May , 2021 Share Posted 13 May , 2021 10 hours ago, peregrinvs said: The result after a couple of soaks in dye remover. I’m now almost certain it is a real one and it has been added to my P08 set to replace a repro frog. Just need to do the same with the repro helve carrier now... 😉 Very nice peregrinvs, that dye remover has done a very reasonable job, thanks for sharing the results. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulowen Posted 13 May , 2021 Share Posted 13 May , 2021 On the subject of 08 Pattern frogs, can anyone remind me what the purpose of the hole cut into the back of the belt section of the webbing. (as attached.) You see this modification a lot and I used to know what it was for but seem to have forgotten! And does anyone have any suggestions for the unit marking? I think it's LY so maybe London Yeomanry? Thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_C Posted 13 May , 2021 Share Posted 13 May , 2021 4 hours ago, paulowen said: On the subject of 08 Pattern frogs, can anyone remind me what the purpose of the hole cut into the back of the belt section of the webbing. (as attached.) You see this modification a lot and I used to know what it was for but seem to have forgotten! And does anyone have any suggestions for the unit marking? I think it's LY so maybe London Yeomanry? Thanks Paul Paul, I believe the holes were improvised to fit over the belt hook of the jacket to hold the frog and bayonet in place when worn in “walking out” mode, rather than as part of the full set. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulowen Posted 13 May , 2021 Share Posted 13 May , 2021 That rings a bell! Thanks for that Pete. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peregrinvs Posted 22 June , 2021 Author Share Posted 22 June , 2021 Another before’n’after of removing black dye from webbing. In this case an RN 1919 Pattern cutlass frog. This took several goes and I decided to stop trying to remove every last bit of black dye lest I remove too much original khaki dye with it. The bonus is that it hasn’t removed the original markings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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