leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 Hello all, i am searching for the Battalion for my great grandfather William James Thomas, all i have is his medal card which doesn't give the Battalion. i have done a search on NA for his name in officers records but cannot find him. Am i missing anything so i can download the war diaries. many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 Medal Rolls 12th RF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2021 That is briliant. Thank you so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 The MIC in your post shows he was commissioned 17/3/1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2021 you have to excuses my ignorance, what does that mean? he was made 2/Lt after the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 6 minutes ago, leahmerrett said: you have to excuses my ignorance, what does that mean? he was made 2/Lt after the war? Yes, Leah. On the date quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 Hi Leah, The publication of his commission in the London Gazette... Images sourced from Findmypast Do any of these DoBs fit? Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2021 Hi Chris, yes he is the 4th one down, 24th Dec 1883 in Bethnal Green. would that be his new service number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRC Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 6584096 comes from the number block allocated to men serving with the London Regiment as part of the 1920 Army renumbering. However I didn't think that included officers. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/new-british-army-numbers-issued-in-1920/ There is also a bit of an anomaly there. As our parent site, the Long, Long Trail puts it:- The London Regiment was unusual. Not only were all of its battalions of the Territorial Force (although the first four were affiliated to the other City of London regiment, the all-regular Royal Fusiliers) but each battalion was regarded as a corps in its own right. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/london-regiment/ So his new service number could reflect that he was serving with one of the four Royal Fusilier affliated London Regiment Battalions. Clear as ditchwater Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2021 14 minutes ago, PRC said: 6584096 comes from the number block allocated to men serving with the London Regiment as part of the 1920 Army renumbering. However I didn't think that included officers. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/new-british-army-numbers-issued-in-1920/ There is also a bit of an anomaly there. As our parent site, the Long, Long Trail puts it:- The London Regiment was unusual. Not only were all of its battalions of the Territorial Force (although the first four were affiliated to the other City of London regiment, the all-regular Royal Fusiliers) but each battalion was regarded as a corps in its own right. https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/london-regiment/ So his new service number could reflect that he was serving with one of the four Royal Fusilier affliated London Regiment Battalions. Clear as ditchwater Peter definitely ditchwater, thank you though for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 Hi Leah, The spreadsheet is an extract of a list the MoD published of service files in their possession, where the men served post WW1. If you were to be a gambler, you should be able get a copy for £30.00 - see here. I understand that their is a considerable wait though. There is a helpdesk phone number here. Regards Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDWARD1 Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 If commissioned in 1919 why would he have a new service number in 1920 if he was still serving as an officer? I thought an officer did not have a service number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay dubaya Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 13 minutes ago, EDWARD1 said: If commissioned in 1919 why would he have a new service number in 1920 if he was still serving as an officer? I thought an officer did not have a service number. The 1920 shake up saw army numbers issued to all those serving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 7 May , 2021 Share Posted 7 May , 2021 The war diary at the National archives LINK The war diary can be downloaded FREE you will have to register first Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leahmerrett Posted 7 May , 2021 Author Share Posted 7 May , 2021 8 minutes ago, RaySearching said: The war diary at the National archives LINK The war diary can be downloaded FREE you will have to register first Ray thank you Ray. Im reading through those as we speak, i was hoping he would be named but not found anything yet. 1 hour ago, clk said: Hi Leah, The spreadsheet is an extract of a list the MoD published of service files in their possession, where the men served post WW1. If you were to be a gambler, you should be able get a copy for £30.00 - see here. I understand that their is a considerable wait though. There is a helpdesk phone number here. Regards Chris hi Chris, its worth a gamble i think. thank you so much for this info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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