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BORSETTI

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Just to back up earler comments on comparative lengths and bayonet reach.

 

Bayonet 'fencing'  still featured in many military training manuals in the late 19th century, e.g., A. Hutton, Fixed Bayonets (1890), where it is noted that '‘The weakness of our new weapon [i.e., the Pattern 1888] is its shortness as compared to its predecessors… the present rifle [the Lee Metford] with bayonet fixed, measures only five feet one …[when] certain Continental armies, notably the French, are adhering to the longer arm’. Bayonet fencing was still being taught in the Brtish army and featured in competions as late as 1911: e.g., Instructions in Bayonet Fighting for Competitions (HMSO).

 

A question abiut bayonet reach was asked in the House of Commons in February 1908 - https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/commons/1908/feb/24/index.htm, and again in May 1915, e.g., https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1915-05-19/debates/4f940a24-886b-4388-a0a5-9c1ed15a71e3/Bayonets/

Instructions in Bayonet Fighting for Competitions (HMSO).

 

By 1917 the niceties of bayonet fencing were well and truly out of fashion, e.g., D. Van Nostrand, Bayonet Training Manual used by the British Forces, 34-35: ‘It is apparent that bayonet fighting as taught for trench warfare abroad lacks all the niceties of the art of bayonet fencing prescribed in our manual. In bayonet fighting no “fouls” are known. The only rule to follow is: “Get after your man, put him out of action by any means at your command.”

 

Julian

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On 29/04/2021 at 21:21, BORSETTI said:

Hello, the first photos , charger loading rifle, example number one, the bayonet 1888 , will follow the photo of the rifle.

 

baionnette 3.jpeg

 

 

Yes, that's a Navy marking. I have one also.

 

Julian

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M. Borsetti,

 

Who is the maker of your Pattern 1888 bayonet?

 

Regards,

JMB

[edit: Oh, I see it now—-Sanderson.]

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M. Borsetti,

 

That rifle has beautiful woodwork, and is a treasure trove of markings.

The roundel on the buttstock corresponds to the “Birmingham Small Arms & Metals Co.”

 

Regards,

JMB

 

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Hello,

 

I complete the folder of my charger loading rifle with specific photos of the charger box, also use on SmLe n°1 mk1.

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