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Ive asked on the BMF regarding my latest acqusition, a pair of medals to Pte Joe Wheeler who according to FWR says 28594 KSLI and 34805 South Lancs, both of their entries are dated 1914. His MIC says entitled to the pair only, backed up by FWR saying he would likely be entitled to same..

the information I have is he was in 6th KSLI  28594 and 2nd South Lancs 34805. Both regiments would have been in France during 1915.

can anyone specialising in both regiments confirm roughly what date his numbers fit into? 

Im trying to see if he was a late entry or if older or due a star.

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jay dubaya

In the absence of the experts a little KSLI number crunching may suggest a late October 1917 allocated number

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1 hour ago, chaz said:

according to FWR says 28594 KSLI and 34805 South Lancs, both of their entries are dated 1914.


Can you post an image that shows 1914?

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Hi chaz,

 

I'd be tempted to go for a date of circa 13,7.1918 for his 28594 KSLI service number.

 

 

 

 

28549 Hope

image.png.6799f4e4692209ce95fdba484d454a4f.png

 

 

 

28550 Jaques

image.png.dcf44f52cc0f992ce76e274fd7914880.png

 

 

28585 Vowles

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28587 Wilcox

image.png.62b1fdd5976e5d7db925f5831c914b1c.png

 

 

28607 Cooper

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Images sourced from Findmypast

 

Regards

Chris

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the annoying thing is that clicking on either KSLI or South Lancs it comes back with the KSLI page

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4 minutes ago, chaz said:

the annoying thing is that clicking on either KSLI or South Lancs it comes back with the KSLI page

20210420_193941.jpg

 

This has come up many times before and is evidently causing some confusion,

 

FWR are just using the date 1914 as a date marker to describe certain data sets relating to WW1 - having commenced in 1914

 

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual date of the record as such so tread with extreme caution !!

 

Regards

 

Russ

 

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thanks Chris.

 

dont know where FWR get the 1914 from unless its a default for the regiment not the soldier, yet another reason I didnt pay full price for a year with them on renewal, they werent happy I said they had a few problems, looks like its back to Ancestry again then.

 

Ditto Russ, you just beat me to it

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Hi chaz,

 

It looks like his 34805 South Staffs service number may date from March 1919. For example:

 

34808 Westhead

image.png.3458310df95f74fe196d5535d97f28a0.png

Image sourced from Findmypast

 

Edit:

 

From the war diary of 6/KSLI:

image.png.b1d0a88c16fbe3c20a66b45006c98eab.png

Image sourced from the National Archives

 

Regards

Chris

 

 

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or maybe back to FMP  then :rolleyes:

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