Interpreting Naval Service Records

[GrandFleetDays]

A friend is researching a family member who served in the RN from 1887 to 1909 and then throughout FWW She has the Continuous Service Record which shows the ships and shore establishments in which he served. 

A quick question: what is the meaning of the entries under the column headed "List and No?" In the case of this individual, the numbers under 'List' are: 15, 15a, 15b, 15c, 16, 5, 13f, 14 and 12. Not clear what these mean. Any ideas? 

Thank you.

GC

[horatio2]

These are the 'LIst' numbers which, broadly, indicate a rating's status in the ship named.. Lists 14, 15 and 16 are various types of temporary supernumerary ratings (i.e. men who are borne in addition to the ship's complement, who are List 5). List 13 are permanent supernumeraries borne additional. List 12 ratings are men who are borne for pay and admin purposes but who are actually serving in another (smaller) ship, known as a tender to the larger parent ship which is often a depot ship. The name of the 'tender' usually appears in brackets after the name of the 'parent' ship,

Edited 16 April , 2021 by horatio2

[GrandFleetDays]

Many thanks.

This is very helpful.

GC

[Lawryleslie]

17 hours ago, horatio2 said:

These are the 'LIst' numbers which, broadly, indicate a rating's status in the ship named.. Lists 14, 15 and 16 are various types of temporary supernumerary ratings (i.e. men who are borne in addition to the ship's complement, who are List 5). List 13 are permanent supernumeraries borne additional. List 12 ratings are men who are borne for pay and admin purposes but who are actually serving in another (smaller) ship, known as a tender to the larger parent ship which is often a depot ship. The name of the 'tender' usually appears in brackets after the name of the 'parent' ship,

Good Afternoon H2

could you possibly post a link to ships List Definitions if one exists. It would be most helpful.

Thanks

 

Lawry

[horatio2]

Lawry, this is the best explanation ion-line  =  https://sites.rootsweb.com/~pbtyc/RN/List_Numbers.htm#N.B.

The WW1 Lists (1913 KR&AI) are thin but N.B. the caveat -  "...the Ledger Lists remained much the same for the period in which ledgers were being used - say from about 1878 through to about 1971/3, when they were computerised."

[Keith_history_buff]

From time to time, I see on here threads where the list numbers in relation to ship musters are particularly helpful in determining where a rating was, especially in respect of supernumeraries associated with an Accounting Base. Thanks for providing further info on this topic.

[GrandFleetDays]

Thank you to all contributors. Most helpful.