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DenHo

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Could anyone please help identify this uniform.  It could be from the Royal Artillery if it is who I hope it is.  He was born in 1817 and died in 1924. He served in Banff, Malta, Swansea, Woolwich and maybe Jamaica.  He ended his army career as a Sgt Major. The postcard looks like it might be from India but that could just be where it was produced?  I have googled many uniforms but nothing has proven where this originates from.

thank you for any pointers.

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Hi @DenHo and welcome to the forum.

 

I'm not one of the forum experts on uniforms but the picture looks Great War or immediately after to me.

 

Which rules out your man if he was 107 when he died in 1924.

1 hour ago, DenHo said:

He was born in 1817 and died in 1924

 

(Or was that a typo?)

 

Cheers,

Peter

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He’s wearing a typical durzi (native) tailored jacket with officer style pockets on the skirts that was popular with many regiments in garrison in India, including those Territorial Force units sent early in the war to release regular battalions to go to the seat of war in France and Flanders.  The helmet flash has three different colours, typical of several infantry regiments and rules out the Royal Artillery.  With the white central stripe as a focus the following infantry regiments fit the frame:  Leicestershire, East Surrey, East Lancashire Northamptonshire and Leinster.  See: http://www.frontiernet.net/~ericbush/MiSh/Regt.html

These suggestions are not guaranteed, but they are by far the most likely.  His general appearance rules out cavalry.

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16 hours ago, PRC said:

 

 

Which rules out your man if he was 107 when he died in 1924.

 

(Or was that a typo?)

 

Cheers,

Peter

Thanks Peter,

oops, yes it was, I put a mixture of his and his sons DOB in (both same name). It should have been 1817-1886 so he wouldn't have served in the Great War, I think his son did though but I have even less information on him. Thank you for the information you gave me.

 

Thank you also Frogsmile for the background on the uniform.  I think I sort of knew it must be India but I don't think he was posted there - I was "hoping" to have found a photo which may have unlocked more on his Army career.

 

I think I am just really struggling to find more information about him and so reading more into anything I find.  This site has so much information, I hope to spend more time here.

 

Thanks again

 

Denise

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16 hours ago, DenHo said:

Thanks Peter,

oops, yes it was, I put a mixture of his and his sons DOB in (both same name). It should have been 1817-1886 so he wouldn't have served in the Great War, I think his son did though but I have even less information on him. Thank you for the information you gave me.

 

Thank you also Frogsmile for the background on the uniform.  I think I sort of knew it must be India but I don't think he was posted there - I was "hoping" to have found a photo which may have unlocked more on his Army career.

 

I think I am just really struggling to find more information about him and so reading more into anything I find.  This site has so much information, I hope to spend more time here.

 

Thanks again

 

Denise

An alternative to India when it comes to that style of dress is Egypt, Denise, especially the garrison in Cairo, but also various sub stations along the Suez Canal.  The British Army had always taken much of its trailing column of so-called ‘camp followers’ (native administrative personnel, and families) with it wherever it went and that included the durzis (native tailors) who modified uniform on demand just as they did in India.

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1 hour ago, DenHo said:

I put a mixture of his and his sons DOB in (both same name). It should have been 1817-1886 so he wouldn't have served in the Great War, I think his son did though but I have even less information on him.

 

No worries Denise. Do you have some names for the two men involved?

 

Any basic information you can share like date\year of birth, place of birth, date of marriage & wives names, place of death, might all help to tie down the relevant individuals Army service.

The forum focus would have to be on Great War service, but obviously if he came from an Army family then shedding light on the son might also reveal some interesting information about the father along the way.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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