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Pte James Martland KLR casualty - has the Upholland online Memorial got the wrong man?


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Pte #57980 James Martland King's Liverpool CWGC

SDGW has him born in Liverpool, residence Appley Bridge, Lancs

His Soldiers Effects and Pension fit his marriage record 1907

From Anc



His wife and children were in Liverpool 1911, James probably at sea.

Can't positively find him in earlier census records. 


In chasing up this chaps unmarried life I have found the 

Upholland Memorial has claimed him http://www.uphollandwarmemorial.co.uk/martlandjames.htm


Is this more likely to be John Martland ? CWGC


Many thanks



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Great War Memorial Register: 19 Loos Memorial has 277518 John as the son of James & Jane of Strand Houses, Aughton, Ormskirk, Lancs. Aged 21.


Formerly #1903 of King's Liverpool Regt.


If that helps. Looks to me the Upholland site has the same details for 57980 James as CWGC.


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Still wondering how a ship steward ended up in Appley Bridge, his wife gave birth to their last son Robert James in Liverpool, June Qtr 1916.

The BNA has him missing in the Wigan Observer




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In the church magazine, a report to the effect that he had been classed as ‘missing’ gave his address as Walthew Green.


Walthew Green is between UpHolland and Appley Bridge.

Only 2 miles from Appley Bridge and less than 2 miles from Upholland


So It seems the address, his wifes name of Margaret Jane Martland  pension and register of effects tie in with the Upholland website 

And he had 3 children, Eleanor, Charles, Robert


It all ties in and the Martland family have a family tree on Ancestry.co.uk with various documents in their gallery



His mother died 7th january 1939 in Upholland, at New Gate Farm

She was there far back as of 1911


Hence the Upholland area connection






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Thanks all,

James is in 1914 Gores in Wavertree, Liverpool still a ships steward



Is there a census record where is states he was born in Liverpool, as per SDGW ?




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The Wife and kids are living at 20 Plumer Street Wavertree in 1911

In 1914 in your post above with James Martland living at 27 Olton St, Wavertree

Those 2 addresses are less than 1/2 mile from each other


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