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My utmost appolagies for my mistake ,The cards must have got mixed in the not done pile ,Im sorry to hear you had a bad reaction the the vaccine but hope you feel a lot better now .i will post another couple and could you translate the front of the officer card .Unfortunately there is nothing on the reverse.Thank you for your help

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1st: Charpentry destroyed by the English and French.

2nd: Entrance to the fort.

3rd one with the gents on the meadow: Three teachers in enemy country.

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Thank you GreyC for that .Its a shame there is nothing on the teachers card as to me that would have been quiet interesting as two look like officers and I take it Charpentry was a village in the german lines being shelled by the British and French.

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Nr. 82

Abs. Wehrmann G. Müller 5./13

 

An Frau Otto Müller

Grumbach b. Jöhstadt

Erzgb. im Sachsen

N: 61

 

Frankreich, am 28.11.1915

Liebe Frau u. Kind! Zur Nach.

richt, dass ich Pakete vom 21.

mit Gebäck von Eltern erhalten

habe. Sonst gehts noch gut bei

mir. Wie ists bei Euch. Es ist

hier starker Frost seit einigen

Tagen. Liebe Grüsse Euer

lieber Vater

 

Number 82 - Fort de Brimont near Reims

From: Wehrmann G. Müller, 5./13.

To: Mrs Otto Müller, Grumbach near Jöhstadt, Erzgebirge region in Saxony, No. 61

France, 28.11.1915

Dear wife and child! Letting you know that I received the package from the 21st with the baked goods from the parents. Otherwise everything is going well. How are you all? Here there has been severe frost for the past few days. Warm greetings from your dear father

 

Charpentry

An. Fräulein Martha Schulze in Dresden = A.,5, Hohenthalpl. 1 II m.

Abs. K . . . . d. . . . A. Grahl, 3./12., 23. div. XII AK

Frankreich den 7. Juni 1915

Liebe Schwägerin!

Deinen Brief dankend erhalten habe

mich sehr darüber gefreut. Es wird

wohl noch mancher Soldat werden und

mit raus müssen, der früher nicht

daran gedacht hat. Schadet aber keinen

weis (?) uns gehts auch nicht anders. Vor

Weihnachten wird wohl keine Ruhe werden.

Soweit geht mirs noch gut, hoffe es auch

von dir. Es grüsst auf baldiges Wiedersehen

dein Schwager Alwin

Herzl. Grüsse an L. u[nd] d[eine] Mutter

Sind dann deine

Gummiabsätze noch feste? du wolltest sie doch

noch rausbringen. Also, komme nur mal.

 

To: Miss Martha Schulze, in Dresden = A.,5, Hohenthalplatz 1 II m.

From: K . . . . d. . . . A. Grahl, 3./12., 23. div. XII AK

Dear Sister-in-law! I gratefully received your letter, and was very happy about it. Probably many a man who never thought about soldiering will be called up. But it doesn't do any harm. Our circumstances haven't changed. There will surely be no calm before Christmas. So far I am still doing well, I hope you are too. Greetings and to a quick reunion from your brother-in-law Alwin. Warm greetings to L. and your dear mother. Are your rubber [shoe] heels still firm? You wanted to bring them out. So, come on.

Alwin Grahl was later KIA and appears in the Verlustlisten of 20 March 1918.

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Vintage advert for Gummiabsätze (rubber heels) from Continental (the tyre company)

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:D Thats brilliant thank you for doing that Thats realy interesting about the shoes ,although I cant understand the last bit about bring them out .Im posting the next two if you dont mind

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Sorry for the long delay. It's been really hot here and I can't really deal with it, so I think I need a bit of a break. But just post whatever you have, and I'll eventually get to it! Even if I don't manage it right away, I generally do spend a lot of time looking at it :-)

Re: the shoes in the previous card, I thought it sounded like he was teasing her a bit. "I know you want to wear your nice shoes, so come on, just do it!"

Schnierlach

An Fräulein Marie Heim in Kempten in Allgäu, Haslacher Strasse R (?) 57, Bayern

Geschrieben 15. April 1917

Liebe Nichte!

Deine l[ie]b[e] Karte habe ich erhalten

hat mich recht herzlich gefreud

u. danke dir vielmals das Etappen-(?)

paket ist inzwischen angekommen

wass Ihr aus meinem letzten

Brief wohl gesehen habt. Sonnst

bin ich gesund u. geht mir

soweit gut, wass ich auch

von Euch hoffe. Viele Grüsse

an deine Eltern u. Fritz.

Schliese mein Schreiben

mit herzlichen Grüssen

dein Onkel Nikolaus

 

Schnierlach -- now known as La Poutroie in Alsace, France

To Miss Marie Heim in Kempten in Allgäu, Haslacher Street R. (?) 57, Bavaria

There is no return address but the postmark on the left says 9. Württ. Inf. Reg. Nr 127 6. Komp

Written on 15 April 1917

Dear Niece! I received your dear card and was very happy about it and thank you very much. The stage (?) package has also arrived in the meantime, which you will know from my last letter. Otherwise I am healthy and doing well, and I hope that you all are too. Many greetings to your parents and Fritz. Will finish this note with warmest greetings from your Uncle Nikolaus

 

Die Wacht am Rhein

An den Gefreiten Rob. Schulz II, 3. Armeekorps, 5. Inf. Div., Feld-Artillerie Reg 18, 5. Batt., 2. Abtlg.

Berlin, 13.6.15

Werter Herr Schulz!

Heute Sonntag habe ich . . . der . . .

nachmittags . . . es ist aber sehr

schön. . . . . . korp spielt auf unserem

 . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wir

müssen siegen (singen?); mit musiklaischer

Begleitung . . . eitet es sich noch besser.

Denken Sie nur, von morgen ab

bin ich nach dem Kostrechnungsamt

versetzt. Vielleicht kommt Ihr Schwe-

sterlein auch dahin, das wäre schön.

Wenn der Krieg nur nicht mehr so

lange dauern wollte, jetzt wird

es wohl mit Lemberg nicht mehr lan-

ge dauern. . . . . . . . . . schaffen

auch viel.

Es grüsst Sie herzlich

Gerhard (?) . . . . .

 

Die Wacht am Rhein -- was a popular song about protecting the Rhine as the border between Germany and France. The text on the front of the card is the first verse. This video on YouTube has the music and lyrics + translation.

To: Gefreiter Rob. Schulz II, 3. Armeekorps, 5. Inf. Div., Feld-Artillerie Reg 18, 5. Batt., 2. Abtlg.

Berlin, 13.6.15

Dear Mr Schulz! Today, Sunday, I . . . . afternoon . . . it is, however, very nice. . . . . . We must win (sing?); with musical accompaniment it is even better. Just think, tomorrow morning I am being transferred to the accounting office. Perhaps your little sister will also come there, that would be nice. If only the war would not last so much longer, surely it won't last much longer with Lemberg [present-day Lviv in Ukraine]. . . . are doing a lot. Warm greetings from Gerhard. . .

The siegen/singen win/sing dilemma: in Sütterlin they look almost the same, especially when the writer is sloppy. I'm not sure if the rest of the context would help determine which one it is.

 

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Thank you for doing those especialy as the weather was not to your liking .I do not like the heat either and much prefer the spring.Im sure you are right about the shoes and im sure being a lady she would have worn them a lot.I have just received a lot of photo postcards of german soldiers ,most being not written but of the others at least two were killed as far as I can see.I would love to know if we can get any information from the cards .Stay cool and dont worry about getting anything finished

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Papas Bruder Walter

1915 als Ltn in Frankreich

gefallen

 

Dad's brother Walter, killed in action in 1915 as a lieutenant in France

 

The photographer was J. Becker & Co, Bremen, Obernstr. 39

 

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d. 17.I.16

Mein lieber Fritz!

Schicke dir eine Aufnahme, bin

aber nicht grade zum besten getroffen.

Sehe so verschlafen aus, war aber zur

selbigen Zeit nicht so müde als wie ich

aussehe. Mir geht es noch so bestens gut

hoffe das auch von dir.

Bei uns wollte sich die Lage wieder

etwas ändern, Franzosen versuchten

nämlich anzugreifen, sind aber abgewiesen

worden. Es wäre Schade wenn der Urlaub

wieder gesperrt wird (?), denn ich stehe nahe

daran (?), einmal ist es mir schon so gegangen.

Gedenke aber nächsten Monat schon (?) zu

können. Mit innigsten Gruss dein treuer

Freund Mart. (?)

gefallen am 6 Januar 1917

 

17.I.16

My dear Fritz! Sending you a picture, however I was not captured at my best. I look so sleepy even though I wasn't as tired as I looked at the time. I'm doing well and hope that you are too. Our situation seemed to be changing again, namely the French tried to attack but were pushed back. It would be a shame if leave were cancelled, as I am close to taking it (?) and this already happened to me once. I think that I will able to do it next month, however. With warmest regards from your loyal friend Mart. (?)

in ink in a different writing: Killed in action on 6 January 1917

 

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1914 Weltkrieg 1915

Auf Wiedersehen

in der

Heimat

Tausend Gr[üsse] aus Frankreich

von deinem Br[u]d[er] Jakob

1916

 

1914 World War 1915

To our reunion at home. A thousand greetings from France from your brother Jakob 1916

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Thank you for those .Its a shame there was no writing or name on the lieutenants card as I would have liked to have known who he was and anything about him ,the same as a lot of the cards I have. I will keep posting as long as you want. I hope you are more comfortable with the weather as its warming up here and not to my liking .:(

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It just occurs to me: if someone can identify these men's units based on their uniforms, you could look in the regimental history (if one exists) and probably find out more including how they died, especially if they were officers. Sometimes the histories contain registers at the end with all the names of the dead as well as the date of death, so -- in the case of Walter, for example -- it would then just be a matter of matching a lieutenant called Walter with the correct day of death.

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Zur steten Erinnerung Willy Lühmann

As a constant reminder/enduring memory Willy Lühmann

The photographer was B. Kasiel of Kleiner Domhof 11 in Minden in Westfalen.

There are several Willy Lühmanns in the Verlustlisten, but none from Minden or near there (and none who died).

 

I'm having trouble reading the second image. Are you able to increase the contrast? The photo app on my laptop helps a bit, but not enough. No rush, though -- I'll be away from the internet for about the next 5 days.

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Hi,

Otto Heintel from IR 120 did not survive the war. He is listed as KIA in 1919, so he must have sustained his wounds late, or he died late of his wounds or the report was in late (img 002). He was a simple soldier on the photo, a Gefreiter when he died.

Willy /Wilhelm Lühmann shows flaps from the infantry. Given the place the photo was taken IR 15 might well be his unit (img 001). He was either a Sergeant or Vize-Feldwebel. <The distinction between the two not visible on the photo.

GreyC

 

 

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Thank you both for the information .Unfortunately Knitting the writing on the card is faded so I cannot seem to get it any clearer.I would love to have more information on these soldiers but I can only get information on british men as I dont understand german records.My volunteer job is researching groundcrew for 37 Sdqn R.F.C so understand the british side more.I have tryed to enlarge the shoulder board of Willy to see if I could see the regiment

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Thank you for that GreyC I agree with the 2 digit but is there a bullion something above the numbers ?.Not knowing too much about german shoulder boards only that some regiments had different shapes to the end and regimental dipictions in bullion I would have to leave it to people who know more .Unfortunately Icannot get it any clearer than that.I noticed he has crowns on his buttons and wasnt sure if that went for most regiments or just some .Thank you again for the help.Perhaps I can find more information on our Willy

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Hi,

theoretically there could be a crown above the number, but not in this case, though I know what you mean. It might be the button holding the flap or a shadow. The buttons on fieldgrey uniforms came with lions and crowns. Lions Bavarian only, Crowns all other contingents. Here most probably Prussian.

Best,

GreyC

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The latest picture says

Meinem l[ieben] tr[euen] Freunde

Erich

von deinem tr[euen] Freund

Heinz

Weihnachten 1917

 

To my dear loyal friend Erich from your loyal friend Heinz, Christmas 1917

 

It's cooling down here now so I will get back to the other cards soon. I've managed some fragments of the faded card, maybe tomorrow will be a magic day for decoding ;-)

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Im glad its cooling there and that you will be feeling able to do more. I would love to know more about Sgt Willy Luhmann so I might put a post on Soldiers and their units but they seem to be moslyenglish and im not sure if finding a german is for this area. Happy translating

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2 hours ago, GROBBY said:

would love to know more about Sgt Willy Luhmann so I might put a post on Soldiers and their units but they seem to be moslyenglish and im not sure if finding a german is for this area.

There are enough German experts here that it's definitely possible. Plus you have the added benefit that there aren't usually that many discussions here about German soldiers, so all of us who know German will jump on a thread as soon as we see it ;-)

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Unfortunately I was too optimistic about the faded card. I just make out that it was written on 29/5/16 and some fragments of phrases.

An Herrn C.F. Heintel, Pfalzgrafenweiler a/t Freudenstadt

Meine Lieben! Herzl. Dank für die Karte von? dem . . . . . . . Es freute mich dass sich der . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mit herz. Gr. Euer lieber Otto

Brief folgt

 

To Mr C.F. Heintel, Pfalzgrafenweiler, Freudenstadt

My dear ones! Many warm thanks for the postcard of . . . . I am glad that . . . . . with warm greetings from your dear Otto. Letter to follow

 

I'm not very confident about this reading of the card to Marichen Timmerman, but it sort of makes sense... Also I can't read the signature at the end; it could say "Papa" but it might equally well not.

30/1 1916

Liebes Marichen!

. . . . ist heute aus

dem Graben gekommen

da hat er seinen Guten

und schickt Euch allen lieben

eine Karte auf der Ihr

seht, wie es hier früher mal

gewesen ist. Nur Häuser und

jetzt alle . . . . . .

Herzlich Grüsse [an] dir

und deiner Mutter

 

30/1 1916

Dear Marichen! . . . . came out of the trenches today and now he has his goods and sends all you dear ones a card on which you all you can see what it once looked like here. Only houses and now everything . . . .

Warm greetings to you and your mother

 

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Thank you for those ,It could not have been easy with all the fading,but never worry if you cant translate one as I have lots still to look at.I will post another  couple

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An Herrn Friedrich Rästle (?), bei August Be[c]k (?) Turnhall, Ebingen, Balingen Württemb.

Münsingen den 1.1.1918

Lieber Freund

Hier sende ich dir eine

Photographie zum

neuen Jahr. Gr[uss] . . . . .

 

To Mr Friedrich Rästle (?), near August Beck Gymnasium, Ebingen, Balingen, Württemberg

Münsingen, 1.1.1918

Dear Friend

Hereby I send you a photograph for the New Year. Greetings . . . . .

 

No. 67

An Herrn Kurt Schäfer (?), Röhrsdorf 26 bei Chemnitz

Abs. . . . . 6/100, XII AK 28. Div. Westen

den 21.5.16

Lieber Kurt!

Deinen Brief dankend

erhalten. Es freut mich das[s]

du soweit wieder herge-

stellt bist. Hier ist es jetzt

sehr warm. Heute nachmit-

tag nehme ich wieder ein

Fluss-Bad in die Aisne.

(Gesprochen Ehne) Bernhard

 

To Mr Kurt Schäfer (?), Röhrsdorf 26 near Chemnitz

From . . . . 6/100, XII AK. 28. Div. Western Front

21.5.16 [a Sunday for what it's worth]

Dear Kurt!

I received your letter with great thanks. I am glad that you are healthy again. Here it is very hot. This afternoon I am going to take a river-bath in the Aisne. (Pronounced Ehne) Bernhard

 

@Laxonais Vous avez reconnu Sissonne, et cette carte semble être la suite dans la série -- vous n'auriez pas une idée de l'endroit ici? Mais c'est peut-être une question bête vu la destruction...

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Abs. Grenadier Nissen, Gren. Regt. Nr. 89, I. Battl., 1.16.G (?)

An Frau W. (?) Nissen, Schloss Glücksburg, Glücksburg/Ostsee, Schleswig-Holstein

den 15. Febr. 1918

Liebe Mutter!

Erhielt gestern abend dein Paket, besten Dank. Es kam mir (?) gut zu statten; denn die Verpflegung ist augenblicklich sehr schlecht. Der Speck schmeckt zum gerosteten Brot grossartig. Die Bonbons haben auch gut geschmeckt. Es ist mal eine Abwechslung in den ewigen Einerlei.

Hier ist in den letzten Tagen wieder etwas kälter geworden. Hoffentlich wird es bald Frühling.

Wir werden wahrscheinlich bald abgelost und in Ruhe kommen. Hoffentlich dauert die Ruhe recht lange, damit wir uns mal reiflich (?) erholen können.

Wie geht's Euch dann? Ich hoffe, dass Ihr noch alle gesund und munter seid. Für das Paket werde ich Euch mal, wenn wir erst abgelost sind, ein oder zwei Stücke Seife schicken, die Ihr gewiss gut gebrauchen könnt.

Hat Richard schon einen Platz. Lass ihn mal schreiben was er macht. Könnt ihr mir nicht mal einen Topf oder eine Blechdose voll Sirup schicken? Denn trocken Brot essen, ist nicht grade meine Spezialität. Zu der Kantine kann man ja allerlei kaufen . . . Honig 10 M . . . Wurst 7.50 . . . da esse ich aber doch lieber trocken Brot.

Herzliche Grüsse Julius

 

From Grenadier Nissen, Grenadier Regiment No. 89, 1st Battalion, 1.16.G (?)

To Mrs W. (?) Nissen, Glücksburg Castle, Glücksburg/Baltic Sea, Schleswig-Holstein

15 February 1918

Dear Mother!

Received your package yesterday, thank you very much. It was well-received; for the catering is, at this moment, very bad. The bacon tastes delicious with toasted bread. The sweets also tasted good. It is a change from the eternal sameness.

Here in the last days it's gotten colder. Hopefully spring will soon be here.

We will probably be relieved soon and have some leisure time. Hopefully it will last a long time, so that we can thoroughly (?) recuperate.

How are you all doing? I hope that you are all still healthy and happy. For the package I will send you, when we are relieved, one or two bars of soap, that you will surely be able to put to good use.

Does Richard already have a place. Let him write to me about what he's doing. Couldn't you send me a pot or a tin full of syrup? For eating dry bread isn't really my speciality. In the canteen one can of course buy all sorts of things . . . honey 10 Marks . . . sausage 7.50 . . . so I prefer to eat dry bread.

Warm greetings from Julius

 

According to the Verlustlisten, Julius Nissen was born on 24.3.1898. He was part of the 1. Maschinengewehrkompagnie (machine-gun company) of his regiment and died of wounds on 22.12.1918. At the time of his death he was an Unteroffizier. The Denkmal Projekt lists him as dying at the Lazarett in Jena.

In the Verlustlisten there is a Richard Nissen from Flensburg, which is about 10 km from Glücksburg but -- assuming that the "place" he refers to Richard having is in the military -- they probably aren't the same person because the man in the Verlustlisten appears pre-1918.

The castle where his mother lived, Schloss Glücksburg, is now open to the public as a museum, film location, and wedding venue. Pictures at the link. Do you know how Julius' wartime letters came onto the open market? It seems strange that a family like that would get rid of them, but who knows, maybe they had to declutter at some point ;-) I am very excited to see the rest of his correspondence.

 

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Thank you for all this information Knitting it is very interesting.It seems a shame that he was mortally wounded in the very last days of the war .I bought the letters as part of a lot with postcards on Ebay so dont know how they got on the market .The letter I will post now must be one of his last as it is dated the 24th November 1918 written from the Lazarett in Jena and that is after the war has ended,so im wondering what and where he was wounded and what happened after he wrote the letter to make him die .The castle looks beutiful and the family must have been quite rich.In 1918 his unit lost a lot of men in the Ardenne area

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Frau Nissen, Schloss Glücksburg, Glücksburg, Schleswig-Holstein

 

Jena Jena Jena

Abs. Utffz. Nissen

Jena

Res. Lazarett Jena

Abt. Nordschule, Station 5, Zimmer 40

den 23/11.18

Liebe Mutter.

Besten Dank für erhaltenes Paket, Brief, Bücher. Die Äpfel haben sehr schön geschmeckt. Macht Euch keine Mühe mir was zum Lesen zu schicken, hier gibts genug. Die Wunde heilt tadellos. Ich bin auch schon dicker geworden, und der Appetit ist besser.

Wenn Ihr mal ein Kaninchen schlachtet, so schickt mir ein bitte ein Stück, aber Äpfel dabei sacht (?) lohnt es sich ja nicht. Das letzte Paket welches Ihr am 15. abgeschickt habt erhielt ich am 19. In der Zeit wird das Fleisch ja nicht schlecht. Wenn letztend nicht möglich is schickt Äpfel. Ich spare hier Geld.

Zum Schluss seid alle herzlich gegrüsst von Julius

 

Jena Jena Jena

From Unteroffizier Nissen, Jena, Reserve Lazarett Jena, Division "Nordschule" (North School), Station 5, Room 40

To Mrs Nissen, Glücksburg Castle, Glücksburg, Schleswig-Holstein

23/11.18

Dear Mother.

Thank you for the package, letter, [and] books. The apples tasted very good. Don't worry about sending me reading material, there is enough here. The wound is healing perfectly. I've also gained weight and my appetite has improved.

When you slaughter a rabbit, please send me a piece; but, to put it mildly (?), apples in addition aren't worth it. The last package, which you sent on the 15th, arrived on the 19th. In this amount of time the meat won't go bad. If this isn't possible then send apples. I hereby save money.

Lastly, warm greetings to all from Julius

 

The shakiness of his handwriting in the letter at first made me think that he must be quite ill. But then it occurred to me that it could also be the result of not having a hard surface to write on -- perhaps he was in his bed or outside in a chair, and had to write on his lap. The address is in his old confident script.

Based on this letter and the Verlustlisten, we know he was in the Lazarett for at least one month before his death and likely longer; his mother clearly had already been informed about his wound, and (if we take his statement about it "healing perfectly" at face value) he was well on his way to recovery.

Possible causes of death could be blood poisoning, tetanus, pneumonia, and of course influenza. In one of the hospital scenes in All Quiet on the Western Front, the character Franz Wächter seems to be doing well but dies after his wound re-opens and nurses don't come in time; he never gets his strength back after that blood loss.

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Thank you for the very prompt reply ,you are getting faster and faster.I think we will never know how he died but as the VL says he died of wounds, as you say it could be a lot of things .I have another 7 of his so I will post the one before which is from June

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