Maps search

[Stavros]

Happy new year to everyone

 

I am looking for the following 18 sheets of maps from Salonika front , which do not exist in collections of Salonika Campaign Society and The National Archives. 

These maps are : 

 

1:20.000 , Livadi , Gourbech , G.D. Nichele , Klidi , Kalivia , Kolindros , Baghtche , Grand Karabournou , Nea Malgara , Karya , Gramatina , Tossilovo , Humkos , Paliotros , Demirhisar , Vetrina.

 

1:50.000 , Alistrat , Biklista.

Can anyone help ?

[Gardenerbill]

Sorry Stavros, I am only aware of the maps available via the S.C.S. but I thought it might help to give your post a nudge.

[Stavros]

Thank you very much ,
let's wait for someone to help.

[jonbem]

any of these what you need?

WWI Other Theatres of War | McMaster University Library

 

[MaureenE]

Are you after maps from a particular source?

 

I note Baghtche is one of the places mentioned, which is in Turkey. Perhaps a Turkish source, such as the Turkish Official Histories, available online , may have something.

 

Maureen

[Stavros]

11 hours ago, jonbem said:

any of these what you need?

WWI Other Theatres of War | McMaster University Library

 

Unfortunately this page only has 5 maps from Salonika front, and does not include any of the ones I would like.
Thanks for your interest

[Stavros]

8 hours ago, Maureene said:

Are you after maps from a particular source?

 

I note Baghtche is one of the places mentioned, which is in Turkey. Perhaps a Turkish source, such as the Turkish Official Histories, available online , may have something.

 

Maureen

If I understood the question correctly ,
As a private amateur I deal with some historical issues of my place, from the time when my country was enslaved to the Turks, the maps as it is understood help in some cases.

Especially at that time it was very common for a toponym to exist in more than one area  ( Baghtche )  this toponym belongs to an area south of Thessaloniki.

Thanks for the intervention

[Gully Ravine]

Hi Stavros  Happy New year to you – hope you are well.  Some of the places you list are shown on the 1:50,000 maps you have from us and Demirhisar Station is shown on the Ernekoj 1:20,000 map, 1783: 1939.  But you probably already know this.  I mention it in case it might help.

 

The maps on our DVD that we sourced from The National Archive for our DVD set were not their complete Salonika collection – simply those we thought were most relevant to our members and those interested in the Campaign.

 

For example, a quick search on their website shows this one:  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4276874

 

Might this (and possibly others there) be useful?

 

Keith (Membership Secretary, SCS)

[Stavros]

Yes you are right that some of the places I am interested in appear in map sheets with a scale of 1: 50,000, however they do not cover all the areas that interest me while the scale 1: 20,000 always gives more information.

The link you provided is very correct, but this particular gender map because I already have it is incomplete, it is in the initial stage of creation , while one of the other maps does not exist.

In your series SCS DVDs , in number 2 DVD there is a file with the name intex , I attach it to you, in this blueprint are 16 of the 18 maps that interest me.
In the upper right corner there is the logo of Imperial War Museam , I have searched a lot on the museum page without any results, I have contacted the museum quoting the relevant blueprint with their own stamp, but the answer I received was that they can not locate it, however there is the blueprint, and possibly the maps.

Could you help me please ?

Edited 9 January , 2021 by Stavros

[MaureenE]

The lower right hand corner of the map indicates that it was produced by 6th Field Survey Co, R E [Royal Engineers]. This is a British Army Cormpany/Corps.

 

National Archives (Kew, UK)

War Office: Geographical Section General Staff: War of 1914-1918: Salonika Campaign: Maps. WO 298

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14502

Description:

Maps from British, Allied and a few enemy sources showing the theatre of war and progress of fighting in the Salonika campaign.

The bulk of the material in this series is dated 1908 to 1919.

Physical description: 835 flat sheet(s)

This link https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/r/C14502 sets out the individual records/maps.

 

The National Archives (Kew, UK) has a catalogue description War Office: Directorate of Military Survey and predecessors: Papers

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14388 which states

Other reference material acquired by the Directorate, including maps, surveys etc, is held by the British Library under Section 4(1) of the Public Records Act 1958.

 

So perhaps the British Library may have what you are looking for, or some of it.

The British Library catalogue http://explore.bl.uk/primo_library/libweb/action/search.do?mode=Basic&vid=BLVU1&vl(freeText0)=&tab=local_tab&

 

If you can't find anything, perhaps you could ask the Royal Engineers Museum if it could suggest any sources for the maps you require

https://www.re-museum.co.uk.

Other   possible sources for possible advice  Defence Surveyors' Association, UK  https://www.defencesurveyors.org.uk

Prince Consort's Library details in  https://wiki.fibis.org/w/Prince_Consort's_Library

 

 

 

 

[Stavros]

The information you provided is particularly useful, I will do my research in each of these sources,

Thank you very much !

[Guest]

I need  military maps of Serbia in 1914,thanks

[Gardenerbill]

Welcome to the forum, are you aware of the Austrian maps:

 

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm