Guest Posted 5 February , 2021 Share Posted 5 February , 2021 Charlie, Mate amazing what you find. I also could be wrong about these three men and they may also be in a prize crew when captured and or died? Of cause not all those who escaped were on Emden at that time. Another area to look at? Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaureenE Posted 6 February , 2021 Share Posted 6 February , 2021 On 04/02/2021 at 11:50, stevebecker said: Mate, On checking the Geheime Marine Verlustliste, it includes some I didn't have from the Emden; Lauterbach Christian Eduard Augustus Julius ObLtzS deR Marine SMS Emden 1915- (born at Rostock ) zurückgeht (going back) and zurückgehalten (held back) But no idea on how they became PoW's and or deid Cheers S.B There is a book available online Lauterbach of the China Sea : the Escapes and Adventures of a Seagoing Falstaff by Lowell Thomas, 1930 Archive.org. A China Sea Captain, during WW1 Julius Lauterbach was navigator on the German SMS Emden which attacked oil tanks at Madras. He was later a prisoner in Singapore at Tangling prison camp page 95, and helped ferment dissatisfaction which led to the Singapore Mutiny, during which he escaped and fled, initially to Sumatra. Cheers Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 6 February , 2021 Share Posted 6 February , 2021 (edited) Mates, An updated lists gives us around 29 men who were not with the Emden when she was lost. Becker Bernhard Heizer Marine SMS Emden - II. Werft-Div. 2. Abtl. 3 Komp 1915- (born at Dortmund ) bisher vermißt zu streichen shown escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Dorf Albert Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Gerdts Johannes (Hans) LtzS deR to ObLtzS deR Marine SMS Emden - Torpidobot komutani olan (Torpedo Boat Commander) Ottoman Destroyer "Bafra" or "Basra" 6-15 to 8-17 RTG return to Derindje naval detachment to Ottoman Destroyer "Bafra" or "Basra" 1-18 to 5-18 to Commander of a T-boat of the torpedo boat flotilla Sewastopol 5-18 to 11-18 1915-17 1917-18 (1885 in Lehe DoA 13-4-45) suicide aboard the passenger steamer "Cap Arcona" in Copenhagen from Merchant Navy 3rd officer on the NDL Reichspostdampfer "Kleist" interned in Padang (Sumatra) 1914 joined with ObLtzS Mücke from SMS Emden 1914 escaped to Yeman stayed in Turkey until the end of the war awarded EK II 11-2-15 later WWII Merchant Navy suicide shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Gyssling (Gyßling) Eugen LtzS Marine SMS Emden to U-Bootwaffe 1915 to ObLtzS Watch officer U 50 U Boat 1915- born 1893 at München KIA 31-8-17) U 50 reported Sunk probably from a mine off Terschelling North Sea on or after 31-8-17 44 dead (all hands lost) Bavanian from SMS Gneisenau to SMS Emden 13-8-14 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke awarded EK II 2-15 & EK I and Bavarian Military Order of Merit IV Class with Swords and Prince Regent Luitpold Medal father General Gyssling 6th Bavanian Div Hilbers Georg FT Maat Marine Funken-Telegraphen SMS Emden - II. Werft-Div. 1. Abtl. - Telegraphist Torpedoboot "V 84" 1915- (born at Bockhorn Varel i. O DoW 26-5-17) Tot reported wounded Rechter Arm rechter Oberschenkel Gesäß (Right arm right thigh and buttocks) when Torpedoboot "V 84" mined off the German coast North Sea 5 KIA shown escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Hoff Walter ObSignal Gast Marine SMS Emden to Marine Luftschiff Abteilung 1915- (born at Charlottenburg Berlin ) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 shown leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 5-1-18 awarded EK II 2-15 Keil Willi Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 1915- (born at Merlach Sachsen-Altenburg DoD 27-3-15) gestorben Krankheit (illness) of typhus near Al Lith from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke Kirchbach Erich Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Koschinski (Koschinsky) Heinrich Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 1915- (born at Lägerdorf Steinburg ) zurüdgeh from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke schwer verwundet (badly wounded) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad Krause F Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Lang Heinrich Dr Marine SMS Emden - Arzt 1915- Merchant Navy from the Choising interned in Padang 1914 joined with ObLtzS Mücke from SMS Emden 1914 escaped to Yeman (not identified)? Lanig Friedrich Heizer (Stoker) Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 3 Komp 1915- (born at Heidelberg Baden DoW 2-4-15) Tot from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad Lauterbach Christian Eduard Augustus Julius ObLtzS deR Marine SMS Emden - Watch and Prize officer to Navigator 10-14 1915- (born 1877 at Rostock died 18-4-37) zurückgeht (going back) and zurückgehalten (held back) shown as commandant of SS Exford prize ship taken by Emden 8-11-14 captured with 16 men by British auxiliary cruiser HMS Himalaya 11-12-14 escpaed during the Sepoy mutiny 2-15 RTG 10-15 Commanded Hilfsschiff SMS Schiff K 1-16 to 11-17 to administrative officer of the 1st half protection Flotilla 11-17 to 1-18 to Commander SMS Möve 1-18 to 11-18 awarded Knight's Cross of the Kgl. House Order of Hohenzollern with Swords and EK II & EK I and Kgl. Order of the Crown 4th Class Mauritz Julius Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 1915- (born at Lucknojen Labiau ) from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke schwer verwundet (badly wounded) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad shown vermißt MIA 1916 Michaelis Erich Bootsmaat Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1915- (born at Neudorf a. Berge Wreschen DoD 17-8-16) gestorben Krankheit (illness) reported der wegen Ruhr ins Lazarett nach Dresden überführt wird (transferred to the hospital in Dresden because of dysentery) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Mücke (Muecke) Hellmuth von LtzS to Kapt-Lt Marine 1st officer "SMS Emden" sayed after escape across the Indian Ocean - Firat Nehir birlikleri Komutani (Firat (Euphrates) River Forces Commander) Mesopotamia 1914-15 1917 (1881 at Zwickau died 30-7-57) Saxon from SMS Emden 1914-1915 3 officers 6 PO's 41 men escaped to Yeman arrived Istanbul 23-5-15 5 officers 7 PO's and 30 men RTG 1915 illness to 15th half Flotilla Torpedoboats 8th Flotilla in North Sea returned to Mesopotamia RTG 1917 to Danube Half Flotilla to Navagation officer SMS "Derfflinger" 8-17 to 2nd Torpedoboat Div 5-18 awarded EK II 2-15 & EK I 4-15 wrote books also recognized the danger for the Armenians shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Münch Walter ObHeizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Piduch Josef Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 1915- (born at Eickel ) in Gefangenschaft (in prison) PoW Pinkert Friedrich Bootsmaat Marine SMS Emden to 7Co/Matrosen Regiment No 4 1915- (born at Cöln a. Rh ) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 shown leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 3-16 awarded EK II 2-15 Rademacher (Josef) Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Mat 1 Abt 1915- (born at Essen Ruhr KIA 1-4-15) Tot joinned SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke shot when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (Saudi Arabia) Redlich Willi Steuermann Maat Marine CPO SMS Emden - I Mat 3 Abt 1915- (born at Guben ) in Gefangenschaft (in prison) PoW Rossbach Paul Maschinenmaat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Schmidt Kurt Georg Roderich LtzS Marine SMS Emden 1915- (born 1892 at Kiel DoW 1-4-15) Tot from SMS Gneisenau to SMS Emden 13-8-14 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke WIA 1-4-15 while commanding rear guard shot when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (Saudi Arabia) awarded EK II 2-15 father Admiral Schmidt Commander Baltic Fleet Schnelle Rudolf Vermessungs Gast Marine SMS Emden - I Mat 3 Abt 1915- (born at Hamburg died date?) Tot possibly around 4-15 Schwaneberger Erich Maschinenmaat deR Marine SMS Emden to ObMaschinenmaat der Seewehr I the Light cruiser SMS "Wiesbaden" 2. Werft Div 1 Abt 1915- (born at Berlin KIA 1-6-16) Merchant Navy interned in Padang 1914 joinned with ObLtzS Mücke escapee's from SMS Emden 29-12-14 to Yeman arrived Istanbul 23-5-15 shown bisher vermißt MIA 1-6-16 lost 589 men only one crew member survived in the sinking at Battle of Jutland Stuge Willi Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Wadephul A Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Wichert Rudolf Johann Heinrich FT Obergast Marine Funken Telegraphen SMS Emden II. Werft-Div. 1. Abtl. to I. Werft-Div 1. Abtl. Ottoman Destoryer "Jarhissar“ or "Yarhisar" 1915- (born 1894 at Mainz KIA 3-12-15) Tot when "Yarhisar" sunk by British submarine E11 in sea of Marmara awarded EK II 2-15 and Ottoman Medal of Bravery and War Medal Witte Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (not identified)? Cheers S.B Edited 6 February , 2021 by stevebecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley John Lindsay Posted 7 February , 2021 Share Posted 7 February , 2021 Dear All, and Steve, Here, for your general information, are various portraits of Helmuth von Mücke (1881-1957): pre-Great War, and after his return. Kapitänleutnant v. Mücke held the EKI and EKII, the Kronenorden IV Klasse, and various other decorations. Kindest regards, Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 8 February , 2021 Share Posted 8 February , 2021 Mates, Some more checking found this man in Ottoman documents Hohlen A Masch maat Marine SMS "Emden" part of the Ayesha detachment shown SS "General" 17-6-15 He then disappears as many of these men did, but he looks like he stayed in Turkey instead of returning home and coming back as a number did. Cheers S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 21 February , 2021 Share Posted 21 February , 2021 Mate, You mite check here as I have given those I found so far? S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 20 October , 2021 Share Posted 20 October , 2021 (edited) Mates, I found what is shown as a Crew list in the Trove reported in "The West Australian" newspaper dated 6 Aug 1915 of those who arrived in Istanbul in May 1915 While the names appear a translated German so they maybe not 100 % correct, also most ranks and different then shown in other works. The third man killed in the fight 1 April 1915 is reported as Firemen Louiz, when his name was (Heizer) Friedrich Laing They miss some names and the spelling of other needs some checking. I'll again list all the names I have with the new men, which makes around 59 men, not all are of those that arrived in Istanbul in 1915; Bartolomans Torpedo Maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Becker Bernhard Heizer Marine SMS Emden - II. Werft-Div. 2. Abtl. 3 Komp 1915- (born at Dortmund ) bisher vermißt zu streichen shown escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Berg Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Boehmann ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Booch Masch maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Burgwedel Boots-Maat Marine Boatswain SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Dorf Albert Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Fireman (possibly Heizer) Torpedo Maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Gerdts Johannes (Hans) LtzS deR to ObLtzS deR Marine SMS Emden - Torpidobot komutani olan (Torpedo Boat Commander) Ottoman Destroyer "Bafra" or "Basra" 6-15 to 8-17 RTG return to Derindje naval detachment to Ottoman Destroyer "Bafra" or "Basra" 1-18 to 5-18 to Commander of a T-boat of the torpedo boat flotilla Sewastopol 5-18 to 11-18 1915-17 1917-18 (1885 in Lehe DoA 13-4-45) suicide aboard the passenger steamer "Cap Arcona" in Copenhagen from Merchant Navy 3rd officer on the NDL Reichspostdampfer "Kleist" interned in Padang (Sumatra) 1914 joined with ObLtzS Mücke from SMS Emden 1914 escaped to Yeman stayed in Turkey until the end of the war awarded EK II 11-2-15 later WWII Merchant Navy suicide shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Goldman ObSignal Gast Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Grube ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Gyßling (Gyssling) Eugen LtzS Marine SMS Emden to U-Bootwaffe 1915 to ObLtzS Watch officer U 50 U Boat 1915- born 1893 at München KIA 31-8-17) U 50 reported Sunk probably from a mine off Terschelling North Sea on or after 31-8-17 44 dead (all hands lost) Bavanian from SMS Gneisenau to SMS Emden 13-8-14 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke awarded EK II 2-15 & EK I and Bavarian Military Order of Merit IV Class with Swords and Prince Regent Luitpold Medal father General Gyssling 6th Bavanian Div Haert Masch maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Hegel ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Heimann Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Hilbers Georg FT Maat Marine Funken-Telegraphen SMS Emden - II. Werft-Div. 1. Abtl. - Telegraphist Torpedoboot "V 84" 1915- (born at Bockhorn Varel i. O DoW 26-5-17) Tot reported wounded Rechter Arm rechter Oberschenkel Gesäß (Right arm right thigh and buttocks) when Torpedoboot "V 84" mined off the German coast North Sea 5 KIA shown escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Hoff Walter ObSignal Gast Marine SMS Emden to Marine Luftschiff Abteilung - Signal-Maat II Mat 8 Komp 1915- (born at Charlottenburg Berlin ) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 shown leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 5-1-18 awarded EK II 2-15 Hohlen A Masch maat Marine SMS Emden part of the Ayesha detachment shown SS "General" 17-6-15 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? Keil Willi Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1 Abt 1915- (born at Merlach Sachsen-Altenburg DoD 27-3-15) gestorben Krankheit (illness) of typhus near Al Lith from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke Kirchbach Erich Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Knopp ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Koschinski (Koschinsky) Heinrich Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1 Abt (also shown as ObMatrose) 1915- (born at Lägerdorf Steinburg ) zurüdgeh from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke schwer verwundet (badly wounded) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad Krause F Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Krausederl Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Krentz Torpedo Maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Lang Heinrich Dr Marine SMS Emden - Arzt 1915- Merchant Navy from the Choising interned in Padang 1914 joined with ObLtzS Mücke from SMS Emden 1914 escaped to Yeman (not identified)? Lanig Friedrich Heizer (Stoker) Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1 Abt 3 Komp 1915- (born at Heidelberg Baden DoW 2-4-15) Tot from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (Newspaper in Trove 6-8-15 shown his names as Louiz) Lauterbach Christian Eduard Augustus Julius ObLtzS deR Marine SMS Emden - Watch and Prize officer to Navigator 10-14 1915- (born 1877 at Rostock died 18-4-37) zurückgeht (going back) and zurückgehalten (held back) from Merchant Navy Commander SS "Gouverneur Jaeschke" shown to Commander SS Exford prize ship taken by Emden 8-11-14 captured with 16 men by British auxiliary cruiser HMS Himalaya 11-12-14 escpaed during the Sepoy mutiny 2-15 RTG 10-15 Commanded Hilfsschiff SMS Schiff K 1-16 to 11-17 to administrative officer of the 1st half protection Flotilla 11-17 to 1-18 to Commander SMS Möve 1-18 to 11-18 awarded Knight's Cross of the Kgl. House Order of Hohenzollern with Swords and EK II & EK I and Kgl. Order of the Crown 4th Class Leibert Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Mauritz Julius Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1 Abt 1915- (born at Lucknojen Labiau ) from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke schwer verwundet (badly wounded) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad shown vermißt MIA 1916 Michaelis Erich Boots-Maat Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1915- (born at Neudorf a. Berge Wreschen DoD 17-8-16) gestorben Krankheit (illness) reported der wegen Ruhr ins Lazarett nach Dresden überführt wird (transferred to the hospital in Dresden because of dysentery) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 Mücke (Muecke) Hellmuth von LtzS to Kapt-Lt Marine 1st officer "SMS Emden" sayed after escape across the Indian Ocean - Firat Nehir birlikleri Komutani (Firat (Euphrates) River Forces Commander) Mesopotamia 1914-15 1917 (1881 at Zwickau died 30-7-57) Saxon from SMS Emden 1914-1915 3 officers 6 PO's 41 men escaped to Yeman arrived Istanbul 23-5-15 5 officers 7 PO's and 30 men RTG 1915 illness to 15th half Flotilla Torpedoboats 8th Flotilla in North Sea returned to Mesopotamia RTG 1917 to Danube Half Flotilla to Navagation officer SMS "Derfflinger" 8-17 to 2nd Torpedoboat Div 5-18 awarded EK II 2-15 & EK I 4-15 wrote books also recognized the danger for the Armenians shown in Klaus Wolf's Book Münch Walter ObHeizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Ostermann Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Petersen Torpedo Maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Piduch Josef Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Matr Div 1 Abtl 1915- (born at Eickel ) in Gefangenschaft (in prison) PoW 11-11-14 possibly taken with LtzS Lauterbach and 17 men on the prize ship SS Exford by British AMC "Empress of Japan" near Padang Sumatra Pinkert Friedrich Boots-Maat Marine SMS Emden (shown as Matrose) to 7Co/Matrosen Regiment No 4 1915- (born at Cöln a. Rh ) escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 shown leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 8-3-16 awarded EK II 2-15 Rademacher (Josef) Matrose Marine SMS Emden - II Matr 1 Abt 1915- (born at Essen Ruhr KIA 1-4-15) Tot joinned SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke shot when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (Saudi Arabia) Redlich Willi Steuermann Maat Marine CPO SMS Emden - I Matr 3 Abt 1915- (born at Guben ) in Gefangenschaft (in prison) PoW 9-11-14 possibly taken with LtzS Lauterbach and 17 men on the prize ship SS Exford by British AMC "Empress of Japan" near Padang Sumatra Reich ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Rich Masch maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Rossbach (Roßbach) Paul Masch Maat Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Sangen Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Schmidt Kurt Georg Roderich LtzS Marine SMS Emden to SMS Ayesha 1915- (born 1892 at Kiel DoW 1-4-15) Tot from SMS Gneisenau to SMS Emden 13-8-14 escaped to Yeman on the Ayesha renamed SMS Ayesha with ObLtzS Mücke WIA 1-4-15 while commanding rear guard shot when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (Saudi Arabia) awarded EK II 2-15 father Admiral Schmidt Commander Baltic Fleet Schnelle Rudolf Vermessungs Gast Marine SMS Emden - I Matr 3 Abt 1915- (born at Hamburg died date?) Tot possibly around 4-15 Schwalbe Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Schwaneberger Erich Masch Maat deR Marine SMS Emden (shown 1st Mate) to ObMaschinenmaat der Seewehr I the Light cruiser SMS "Wiesbaden" 2. Werft Div 1 Abt 1915- (born at Berlin KIA 1-6-16) Merchant Navy interned in Padang 1914 joinned with ObLtzS Mücke escapee's from SMS Emden 29-12-14 to Yeman arrived Istanbul 23-5-15 shown bisher vermißt MIA 1-6-16 lost 589 men only one crew member survived in the sinking at Battle of Jutland Schwenteit Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Stefan Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Stoves Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Stuge Willi Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Süß (Suss) Wilhelm ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden to U-Boots-Flottilla- Mediterranean Sea 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? shown awarded EK II & EK I and Ottoman War Medal Tiedemann ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Wadephul A Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 awarded EK II 2-15 (not identified)? Wellmann LtzS Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Wichert Rudolf Johann Heinrich FT Obergast Marine Funken Telegraphen SMS Emden II. Werft-Div. 1. Abtl. to I. Werft-Div 1. Abtl. Ottoman Destoryer "Jarhissar“ or "Yarhisar" 1915- (born 1894 at Mainz KIA 3-12-15) Tot when "Yarhisar" sunk by British submarine E11 in sea of Marmara awarded EK II 2-15 and Ottoman Medal of Bravery and War Medal Winterling Heizer Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) Witte Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- from SMS Emden 1914-1915 escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke leicht verwundet (minor wound) WIA 1-4-15 when attacked by arabs at Ras el Aswad (not identified)? Wolf Matrose Marine SMS Emden 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? (The West Australian Newspaper on Trove dated 6-8-15) If you can add any details on these new men please pass it on S.B Edited 20 October , 2021 by stevebecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Posted 21 October , 2021 Share Posted 21 October , 2021 Steve you are so awesome for sharing all this work…bless you! What amazing stories of this brave and valiant crew! you have proven one thing, at least one German got back to Germany and became a submariner! So it is possible, Learning all this really makes me study this particular photo. I wonder where and when it was taken. The one gentleman resembles Mulcke. But Frederich never put any notes on the back of this one. In any case, so interesting and please continue to share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 October , 2021 Share Posted 22 October , 2021 (edited) Mate, Of cause all other ranks of the Emden's crew were awarded an EK 2 for there service on that ship dated Feb 1915, while officers were awarded a EK I. So thats one way to check those post that date. Also all crew members were granted the name Emden, as part of there names, so again check German directories to find names? But we should not forget a new Emden (2) was built and so named and saw service during the war. S.B Edited 22 October , 2021 by stevebecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Posted 22 October , 2021 Share Posted 22 October , 2021 Yes, but that is my Great Uncle back row third from the left, He only served on the original Emden (and the submarine he perished on) this is from his personal photos. So this photo is from the original Emden and this crew served in Tsingtao. Several are clearly close comrades of his as they are in other photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 23 October , 2021 Share Posted 23 October , 2021 Bob, Yes sorry I missed what you was saying. While Freidrich was on Emden Pre war (the card shows 1913) but I can find no record of him during 1914-15 on Emden? Did he return before 1914 to Germany, I am sorry I have not idea, but seams more likely, then him being on Emden during the fight and escape where he name is not mentioned in any of the sources I so far have found? But you never know so I'll see what turns up. A number of men that did make it back home did join the U Boat Waffe, like Süß (Suss) Wilhelm ObMatrose Marine SMS Emden to U Boots-Flottilla- Mediterranean Sea 1915- escaped to Yeman with ObLtzS Mücke arrived Turkey 23-5-15 (not identified)? shown awarded EK II & EK I and Ottoman War Medal I have no Idea what boats he served in, and a number of the names I can't confirm show later service in U Boats. S.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert B Posted 23 October , 2021 Share Posted 23 October , 2021 (edited) Yes I believe you are correct that he probably returned home before hostilities broke but it must have been really close. As discussed earlier in this post, Frederich Loh, perished on U-59. He kept a picture record of his trip leaving Bremerhaven and going to Tsingtao and numbered the pictures on the back. So I can track him from Gibraltar, to Cairo, to Columbo to Tsingtao. He chronicles the shelling done on the Chinese coast, naval action with the SMS Gneisenau and other ships, the Emden voyage to Japan, literally all the events the Emden was involved in but then radio silence (or picture silence) until he is suddenly wearing his “Uboats Flotille” hat. So odd to me that he would not chronicle his way home, but I have no record. And most of the relations that would have known something are no longer alive. One of his last series of photos is of the beached SMS Taku which I know happened on October 22nd 1913 so he was still there at the time. He also has a photo of the Konigen Louise, a transport ship in harbor at Tsingtao so perhaps he got a nicer trip home and thus did not document his time but slept in a nice room😂 in any case, he had an eventful time aboard the Emden and appeared to be a torpedo loader. Perhaps that is what made him a natural fit for sub duty. If you ever come by his name please post. If you are ever looking for a unique photo ask and I will look for it. cheers! (One more addition…he has pictures from the port at Tsingtao of the departing German steamer Patricia. This ship was requisitioned on Jan 12 1914 for duty in Tsingtao as a troop ship. So he was still there then, but perhaps he came home on her as well….) Edited 23 October , 2021 by Robert B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair MITCHELL Posted 31 December , 2023 Share Posted 31 December , 2023 (edited) My late father who served in the New Zealand navy in WWII in the Pacific War against Japan had passed to him a script written by an English observer / witness on shore at the time the SMS EMDEN was engaged with the HMAS SYDNEY in a battle in the Cocos (Keeling) Islands, which saw the SMS EMDEN severely damage and run aground. I also have a brass plaque (measuring [approx] 9cms x 6cms) engraved with the name of a german serviceman. The plaque was taken from the wreck of the SMS EMDEN following the battle. In addition, I also hold a "canteen coin" from the vessel. In the past (2009) I have written on several occasions to the German Embassy in Canberra, located in the Australia Capital Territory, Australia and sent a copy of the plaque, enquiring if I can send / return it to the family of the person named thereon. I failed to get any meaningful response other than my enquiry had been on-sent to the Bundesarchiv - Militararchiv located Wiesentalstrasse 10, 79115 Freiburg, Germany. I was informed at the time that war records were destroyed during the final stages of WWII. However, I was advised that if any information was located, they would be in touch with me. I have heard nothing and not having anywhere else to go, I simply gave up my search. Since that time, I have wondered if I should try continue to pursue my enquiry as I would very much like to return the plaque to the descendants of the german serviceman. I believe, the name on the plaque is SCHMIDT along with his rank. I have given these items over to my son (along with his grandfathers medals and war time memorabilia) and have requested that he send me a copy of the plaque, at which time I can on-send it to you should you have an interest in such Edited 31 December , 2023 by Alastair MITCHELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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