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Tuscania / H.M.T. Samuel Barkas


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Hi everyone, I'm researching the Tuscania and specifically looking for the role of HMT Samuel Barkas, my great-grandfather was skipper and won the British Medal for helping the survivors of the Tuscania, but I can't find any reference to the role of the boat, his name was Clark Willard Mead, can anyone help please?

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Your GGF's RNR record is here -https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8586994

That record tells that he was "Noted for good services rendered in rescuing the survivors of TUSCANIA 5 February 1918." but I can find no record of any other award to him. Your note: "...won the British Medal ..." makes no sense as there is no such medal. He claimed the 1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals after the war.

The Admiralty trawler HMS SAMUEL BARKAS was based at Larne (based on HMS THETIS from 24 Oct 1917 and, from 5 Jan 1918, on HMS VIGOROUS).

 

 

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6 minutes ago, charlie962 said:

Have you read this article via FindmyPast newspapers ?

I believe this to be a different Skipper  - William Arthur MEAD DSC 1518.SA.

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29 minutes ago, horatio2 said:

Your GGF's RNR record is here -https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8586994

That record tells that he was "Noted for good services rendered in rescuing the survivors of TUSCANIA 5 February 1918." but I can find no record of any other award to him. Your note: "...won the British Medal ..." makes no sense as there is no such medal. He claimed the 1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals after the war.

The Admiralty trawler HMS SAMUEL BARKAS was based at Larne (based on HMS THETIS from 24 Oct 1917 and, from 5 Jan 1918, on HMS VIGOROUS).

 

 

Thanks for this, I did find the RNR record, but as I'm new to this kind of research struggled a bit to understand. I separately found his medal record, saw the record on Tuscania and put 2+2 together and got 5! Even without the medal for Tuscania, I still can't find any note of the involvement of the Samuel Barkas (most of things I've read only discuss the Grasshopper, Pigeon and Mosquito), which I think he was skipper of at the time, and what role it/and my GGF played in the Tuscania rescue beyond – that one line in the RNR Record. Any advice on where I should look next is gratefully received, thank you so much for your time!

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From:

THE MERCHANT NAVY, Volume 3, Spring 1917 to November 1918

by Sir Archibald Hurd

but no mention of rescue work

The Tuscania (14,348 tons) was carrying troops and general cargo from Halifax to Liverpool. On February 5th she was torpedoed, and sank about two hours afterwards. The loss of life was heavy, forty‑four of the crew and about a hundred soldiers, but might have been less if the boats had stayed near the ship instead of trying to make land. The master, Mr. P. A. McLean, considered that in narrow waters on a dark night a vessel like the Tuscania, capable of making sixteen knots, would be safer proceeding independently than in convoy.

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1 minute ago, alexBrixham said:

Thanks for this, I did find the RNR record, but as I'm new to this kind of research struggled a bit to understand. I separately found his medal record, saw the record on Tuscania and put 2+2 together and got 5! Even without the medal for Tuscania, I still can't find any note of the involvement of the HMS Vigorous (most of things I've read only discuss the Grasshopper, Pigeon and Mosquito) in the rescue. Any advice on where I should look next is gratefully received, thank you so much for your time!

 

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The records for the Auxiliary patrol based at Larne in 1918 are in ADM 137/808 at Kew. You might find something in there, but these records can be hit and miss.

 

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4112473

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1.  

Mead.jpg.e87aa2c1b1d605bb60667d882dd674b2.jpg

 

Posted here:

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/179601-hms-tuscania-and-otranto/

 

 

2.  Trawlers Elf King, Cardiff Castle, Gloria, Corrie Roy and Walpole are mentioned in this pdf (see page 108 for example) but I didn't spot the Samuel Barkas:

https://www.tuscaniamemorial.org/uploads/1/2/4/2/124253177/the_sinking_of_the_tuscania.pdf

 

JP

 

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The Tuscania was the first troopship laden with Dough Boys to be torpedoed by a German submarine. The ship was torpedoed at 6:26 on the evening of 5th February 1918, and it was abitterly cold night. After the explosion Tuscania listed heavily to starboard, making it impossible to launch its port side lifeboats. Therefore a large number of US troops weren’t able to abandon ship and take to the lifeboats,so they had no option other than to standfast and await assistance. Fortunately, the troopship did not sink immediately and took well over a couple of hours to go down. The destroyers escorting the convoy were therefore able to close in and take off a large number of survivors from the stricken ship. As far as I can tell, HMT Samuel Barkas was involved in the rescue of other survivors - those who had sucessfully gotten away in lifeboats/floats and who subsequently became in great jeopardy of being washed up on the rocks under the cliffs of the Mull of Oa (where others less fortunate did in fact perish that night).

MB

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29 minutes ago, KizmeRD said:

The Tuscania was the first troopship laden with Dough Boys to be torpedoed by a German submarine. The ship was torpedoed at 6:26 on the evening of 5th February 1918, and it was abitterly cold night. After the explosion Tuscania listed heavily to starboard, making it impossible to launch its port side lifeboats. Therefore a large number of US troops weren’t able to abandon ship and take to the lifeboats,so they had no option other than to standfast and await assistance. Fortunately, the troopship did not sink immediately and took well over a couple of hours to go down. The destroyers escorting the convoy were therefore able to close in and take off a large number of survivors from the stricken ship. As far as I can tell, HMT Samuel Barkas was involved in the rescue of other survivors - those who had sucessfully gotten away in lifeboats/floats and who subsequently became in great jeopardy of being washed up on the rocks under the cliffs of the Mull of Oa (where others less fortunate did in fact perish that night).

MB

That's great, thanks MB really appreciate it

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  • 9 months later...

My grandfather Henry Watson ES 4279 was also noted for 'Good Service rendered in rescuing survivors of the Tuscania 5th Feb. 1918'

He was an engineer on Trawlers sailing out of Hull and Scarborough. He is mentioned on Samuel Barkas-12/10/17.

He is the one -Middle front row Petty officer?

Do crew lists exist? 

http://www.scarboroughsmaritimeheritage.org.uk/admin/kcfinder/upload/images/articles/henrywatson.jpg

henrywatson (4).jpg

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‘He was an engineer on Trawlers sailing out of Hull and Scarborough. He is mentioned on Samuel Barkas-12/10/17.

He is the one -Middle front row Petty officer?’

His official rating was ‘Engineman’ (which equated to a Petty Officer). It was a rank title used exclusively in the Trawler Section of the Royal Naval Reserve - He would have been the person in charge of the engines.

At the time that Tuscania was sunk Henry Watson was based at Larne and appears to have been serving onboard the trawler ‘Vigourous’. 

His service sheet is available to download from TNA (BT 377/7/133684).

MB
 

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