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14th Battalion RWF 56874 Lcpl Albert E Grimwade MM.


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Hi All

im just putting together a medal frame for my Mother in law

her Father in law was 56874 Lcpl Albert E Grimwade, a Military Medal holder.

she had the medals in an old tin box.

so im court mounting them for her as a Christmas present.

 

his MM was in the Gazette but nothing else im trying to find out when and where he was awarded it and if there is any write up

ive downloaded the war diaries of the 14th Battalion but cant see any mention.

 

can anyone help or give pointers please

thanks

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Welcome to the GWF. A WW1 Military Medal is a fine heirloom to have in the family.

A good starting point is his MM Index Card from the National Archive (currently free) ref: WO-372-23-114048

It was listed in the London Gazette (no. 58 - supp. 31173) on 11 February 1919.

This gazette listed awards for the Battle of Amiens, 8 August to 6 September 1918 (Source - Howard Williamson). 

 

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:) I was editing when you replied. This gazette listed awards for the Battle of Amiens, 8 August to 6 September 1918, so check the relevant war diaries from August-October 1918. 14th RWF served with 113th infantry Brigade, 38th (Welsh) Division: https://wartimememoriesproject.com/greatwar/allied/battalion.php?pid=7383#:~:text=14th (Service) Battalion%2C Royal Welch Fusiliers was raised,(Welsh) Division on the 28th of April 1915.

 

I know you've seen the 14th RWF WD: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354151

113 Infantry Brigade Sept-Oct 1918: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14055068

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Hi

 

In case you dont have them his service papers are on Ancestry:

 

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1219/images/30836_147226-00619?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=trE34&_phstart=successSource&pId=765438

 

Twice wounded, gassed 27/7 17, shrapnel wound 18/9/18. Papers confirm the MM

 

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Kind Regards

 

Derek

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Thank you Derek

i was wondering if he had been injured as his 1914-1918 medal has a service no 1761 Pte A.E.Grimwade.  Welsh R

 

ill sign up the Ancestry to see what paperwork i can find.

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Hi

 

I think you can get a free 28 day trial at the moment on Ancestry. As an aside, a phenomenal Christmas present! When its done, can you post a picture?

 

Kind Regards

 

Derek

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Reardon951 said:

 

looking through the old tin box i found a few pictures and his demob card

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Those are great to have! You pretty much have everything you could hope to find.

The London Gazette of 11 February 1919 has 18 MMs listed to the 14th Battalion RWF.

This is a good indiction that they were for a major action like Amiens, albeit mixed in with other RWF Battalions over different days:

Comparing the MM schedule numbers should reveal a pattern. MM Schedule no. in red:

 

200307 39978 Pte. Hughes Hughes

200308 60471 Pte. Thomas Ellison Eskdale

 

201797 56874 Pte. (L/C) Albert Edward Grimwade

 

202762 290031 Cpl. William Embrys Hug(h)es

202763 267931 Pte. (L/C) Reginald Perry

202765 75953 Pte. (L/C) Richard Jones Lloyd

202766 235065 Pte. Edward Slowley Douel

 

203906 58202 Sjt. Albert Victor Dallimore

203907 290509 Pte. Ellis Wynne Hughes

 

204832 56426 Pte. Thomas Ellams

204933 70236 Pte. William Jones

204934 40095 Pte. Robert John Owen

 

206502 27436 Pte. Walter James Hart

 

208731 26432 Pte. Llewelyn Foulkes

208732 19592 Sjt. William Richards

208733 77558 Pte. Benjamin Free

208734 235604 Cpl. Thomas Lewis Jones

208735 7906 Sjt. William Cox

 

The fact that Albert's MM is not consecutive with others in his battalion may be significant.

 

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6 hours ago, Reardon951 said:

 

The follow up article points out that he hadn't handled one since 1919, and had forgotten about the tendency to fire if the cocking handle was pushed forward too hard.

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Right cleaned the medals up with bicarbonate of soda, salt, foil and boiling water, ordered a new victory medal and stitched onto a medal bar.

I've run out of time as it's a present for tomorrow morning

I've dropped the Welsh regt pic at the top and 2 cap badges at the sides i think I've messed up a bit as the badges are spelt Welch 

And I've faded out the colours taken from a ww1 brochure i struggled to find a way to hang the medals, so they could be taken off and worn on armistice Day.

I ended up using sticky back picture hooks

 

The back of the pic holds the demob and medal certs

 

I'd like to thank you all for the help in putting this all together.

I'm still on the hunt for the citation to his MM.

 

 

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