Reardon951 Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 (edited) Hi All im just putting together a medal frame for my Mother in law her Father in law was 56874 Lcpl Albert E Grimwade, a Military Medal holder. she had the medals in an old tin box. so im court mounting them for her as a Christmas present. his MM was in the Gazette but nothing else im trying to find out when and where he was awarded it and if there is any write up ive downloaded the war diaries of the 14th Battalion but cant see any mention. can anyone help or give pointers please thanks Edited 16 December , 2020 by Reardon951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 (edited) Welcome to the GWF. A WW1 Military Medal is a fine heirloom to have in the family. A good starting point is his MM Index Card from the National Archive (currently free) ref: WO-372-23-114048 It was listed in the London Gazette (no. 58 - supp. 31173) on 11 February 1919. This gazette listed awards for the Battle of Amiens, 8 August to 6 September 1918 (Source - Howard Williamson). Edited 16 December , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 16 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 16 December , 2020 Thank you Ivor do you have any pointers on how i could track down when and where awarded please thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 (edited) I was editing when you replied. This gazette listed awards for the Battle of Amiens, 8 August to 6 September 1918, so check the relevant war diaries from August-October 1918. 14th RWF served with 113th infantry Brigade, 38th (Welsh) Division: https://wartimememoriesproject.com/greatwar/allied/battalion.php?pid=7383#:~:text=14th (Service) Battalion%2C Royal Welch Fusiliers was raised,(Welsh) Division on the 28th of April 1915. I know you've seen the 14th RWF WD: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354151 113 Infantry Brigade Sept-Oct 1918: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14055068 Edited 16 December , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 16 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 16 December , 2020 perfect thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinesheadvillage Posted 16 December , 2020 Share Posted 16 December , 2020 Hi In case you dont have them his service papers are on Ancestry: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1219/images/30836_147226-00619?treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=trE34&_phstart=successSource&pId=765438 Twice wounded, gassed 27/7 17, shrapnel wound 18/9/18. Papers confirm the MM Kind Regards Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 18 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 18 December , 2020 (edited) Thank you Derek i was wondering if he had been injured as his 1914-1918 medal has a service no 1761 Pte A.E.Grimwade. Welsh R ill sign up the Ancestry to see what paperwork i can find. Edited 18 December , 2020 by Reardon951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinesheadvillage Posted 18 December , 2020 Share Posted 18 December , 2020 Hi I think you can get a free 28 day trial at the moment on Ancestry. As an aside, a phenomenal Christmas present! When its done, can you post a picture? Kind Regards Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 18 December , 2020 Share Posted 18 December , 2020 (edited) The short answer is that he served with both regiments. MIC (free) off ancestry: Edited 18 December , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 18 December , 2020 Share Posted 18 December , 2020 (edited) He was involved in a rather unfortunate incident in 1940 as a Home Guard Sgt. Courtesy of the British Newspaper Archive. A follow up article below. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000104%2f19401108%2f021&stringtohighlight=albert grimwade Edited 18 December , 2020 by sadbrewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Bach y Sowldiwr Posted 18 December , 2020 Share Posted 18 December , 2020 Dr. Jethro Gough the Pathologist was world famous for his study of TB and coal miners' silicosis. His son was a respiratory physician in Cardiff into the 1980s. https://biography.wales/article/s8-GOUG-JET-1903 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 19 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 December , 2020 On 18/12/2020 at 12:54, sadbrewer said: Thats very sad news in reference to the shooting he qualified as a Lewis gunner in WW1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 19 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 December , 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Reardon951 said: looking through the old tin box i found a few pictures and his demob card Edited 19 December , 2020 by Reardon951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reardon951 Posted 19 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 19 December , 2020 looking at the demob card it shows his enlistment 13-10-1914 aged 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 (edited) Those are great to have! You pretty much have everything you could hope to find. The London Gazette of 11 February 1919 has 18 MMs listed to the 14th Battalion RWF. This is a good indiction that they were for a major action like Amiens, albeit mixed in with other RWF Battalions over different days: Comparing the MM schedule numbers should reveal a pattern. MM Schedule no. in red: 200307 39978 Pte. Hughes Hughes 200308 60471 Pte. Thomas Ellison Eskdale 201797 56874 Pte. (L/C) Albert Edward Grimwade 202762 290031 Cpl. William Embrys Hug(h)es 202763 267931 Pte. (L/C) Reginald Perry 202765 75953 Pte. (L/C) Richard Jones Lloyd 202766 235065 Pte. Edward Slowley Douel 203906 58202 Sjt. Albert Victor Dallimore 203907 290509 Pte. Ellis Wynne Hughes 204832 56426 Pte. Thomas Ellams 204933 70236 Pte. William Jones 204934 40095 Pte. Robert John Owen 206502 27436 Pte. Walter James Hart 208731 26432 Pte. Llewelyn Foulkes 208732 19592 Sjt. William Richards 208733 77558 Pte. Benjamin Free 208734 235604 Cpl. Thomas Lewis Jones 208735 7906 Sjt. William Cox The fact that Albert's MM is not consecutive with others in his battalion may be significant. Edited 19 December , 2020 by Ivor Anderson Additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrewer Posted 19 December , 2020 Share Posted 19 December , 2020 6 hours ago, Reardon951 said: The follow up article points out that he hadn't handled one since 1919, and had forgotten about the tendency to fire if the cocking handle was pushed forward too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reardon951 Posted 24 December , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 December , 2020 (edited) Right cleaned the medals up with bicarbonate of soda, salt, foil and boiling water, ordered a new victory medal and stitched onto a medal bar. I've run out of time as it's a present for tomorrow morning I've dropped the Welsh regt pic at the top and 2 cap badges at the sides i think I've messed up a bit as the badges are spelt Welch And I've faded out the colours taken from a ww1 brochure i struggled to find a way to hang the medals, so they could be taken off and worn on armistice Day. I ended up using sticky back picture hooks The back of the pic holds the demob and medal certs I'd like to thank you all for the help in putting this all together. I'm still on the hunt for the citation to his MM. Edited 24 December , 2020 by Reardon951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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