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Private Herbert Edward Greig MM, 375258, 7th London Regiment, KIA 8 September 1918


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Private Herbert Edward Greig MM, 375258, 7th London Regiment KIA 8 September 1918

 

Born: Fulham Q1 1898. 

Parents: George Greig (1863-1930) & Lydia Sophia Julia Donovan (1864-1949), 

              married 14 August 1888, St Peter’s, Notting Hill, Kensington & Chelsea.

1901 Census: 614 Fulham Road, Fulham Road, London

1911 Census: 26 Cherington Road, Hanwell

Siblings: Lydia Florence b. 6 Oct 1889 (d.1977), Horace George b.14 April 1891, served with RFA in WW1 (d.1977), Arthur b.6 Jan 1893, Evangeline Ruth b. 26 Jan 1895 (d.1981), Elsie Louise b.22 September 1896 (d.1973), George Alfred b.Q1 1900 (KIA 7 Nov. 1918, Devonshire Regt. 32572), Cecil William b.1901, Mabel Isobel b.1902, Lydia Violet b. 1903, Winifred Mary b.1906.

 

Family living in Bournemouth when he joined up c.1916. No surviving service record. Served in France:

8th Battalion London Regiment (375258) 21 June 1917 to 21 April 1918, later

7th Battalion London Regiment (368084) 22 April 1918 to 8 September 1918.

 

MM awarded LG (Supp. 31142) 24 January 1919, schedule number 198527

One of many awarded to the London Regiment (around 22 to 7th Bn.) for the Battle of Amiens, August-September 1918.

The 24 January 1919 LG had around 2.5 pages of MMs listed to the battalions of the London Regiment.

 

Killed in Action 8th September 1918. Commemorated Vis-en-Artois Memorial Panel 10.

Parents then (1918) living 27 Heron Court Road, Bournemouth.

Father  died 21 December 1930

Mother died Q1 1949 aged 85, Surrey

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  • Ivor Anderson changed the title to Private Herbert Edward Greig MM, 375258, 7th London Regiment, KIA 8 September 1918

During the  8th-10th August 1918 the 7th Battalion suffered 12 officers and 'about 300' other ranks killed or wounded.

During the 25th-29th August 1918 the 7th Battalion suffered 13 officers and 280 other ranks killed or wounded.

The casualties were mainly on the 26th-27th when the Battalion was in action around 'Billion Wood' near Maricourt.

This was despite significant reinforcements between these attacks. The 22 MMs must have been for these actions.

 

On the 8th September 1918 (the day Herbert died) the 7th Battalion attacked EPEHY.

They suffered 4 officers wounded and c.100 other ranks 'mostly wounded'.

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A comparison of the schedule numbers of the 7th London Regiment MMs in the 24 January 1919 LG shows that they were not all consecutive.

Howard Williamson (p.411) states that the awards in this Gazette were for the Battle of Amiens, 8 August to 3 September 1918.

 

These MMs are RP 68/121/717

196519 CSM Frederick James Haxell 350255

196520 Sjt. Herbert Edwards 350244

 

The remaining MMs are all RP 68/121/727

 

197973 Sjt. Alan Holmes Causton 350196

197974 Cpl. Frederick Hills Evans 368036

197975 Cpl. George William Crabb 350888

197976 Sjt. Edward Goodman 350667

 

Following possibly for 8-10th August 1918?

197989 Cpl. Albert Midwinter 352607

197990 Pte. Henry John Milligan 352790

197991 Cpl. James Lonon 352300

197992 Pte. Edward Debuse 354770

197993 Pte. Sidney Dennis Barker 368013

197994 Pte. Robert Alfred Owen 368010 (Bar 1919)

197995 Sjt. John Robert Crisford 350196

197996 Pte. Harry Newman 352789

 

Following possibly for 26-27th August 1918?

198522 Pte. Richard Bonner Williams 351061

198523 Pte. George Joseph Thompson 352285

198524 Pte. Oliver Foster 365085

198527 Pte. Herbert Edward Greig 368084

198530 Cpl. John Chetland 350268

 

Late August or early September awards?

199329 Pte. Christopher Gerald Griffin 354403 (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

199337 Pte. William Robert Mainprice 354424  (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

199338 Pte. Reginald Arthur Amsden 353379   (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

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The 6th, 7th and 8th Battalions of the London regiment served with 174th Brigade in 58th (2/1st London) Division from 2 February 1918.

The 8th Battalion was awarded 16 MMs in the same gazette and the 6th were awarded 7 (they were often in support).

Herbert Greig was one of many who transferred from the 8th to the 7th Battalion on 22nd April 1918 (medal roll page off Ancestry):

 

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Adding the schedule numbers of the 6th & 8th London Regiment MMs in the 24 January 1919 LG reveals :

 

192193 Pte. John Albert Hall 372661 (8th Bn.) RP 68/121/688

 

These MMs are RP 68/121/717

196519 CSM Frederick James Haxell 350255

196520 Sjt. Herbert Edwards 350244

 

The remaining MMs are all RP 68/121/727

 

197973 Sjt. Alan Holmes Causton 350196

197974 Cpl. Frederick Hills Evans 368036

197975 Cpl. George William Crabb 350888

197976 Sjt. Edward Goodman 350667

 

The following were possibly for 8-10th August 1918?

197979 Pte. Sidney Plant Hellings 372698 (8th Bn.)

197980 Sjt. Percy Simons 370248 (8th Bn.)

197981 Pte. Albert Staton 372532 (8th Bn.)

197982 Pte. Ernest Archibald Barron 372585 (8th Bn.)

197983 Pte. Richard Henry Millington 370699 (8th Bn.)

197984 Sjt. Christopher John Flynn 371391 (8th Bn.)

197985 Pte. James Grant Carstairs 375408 (8th Bn.)

197986 Cpl. James Joseph Haynes 370411 (8th Bn.)

197987 Sjt. Charles Albert Gatting 370073 (8th Bn.)

197988 Sjt. Keith Jackson Molland 372969 (8th Bn.)

197989 Cpl. Albert Midwinter 352607

197990 Pte. Henry John Milligan 352790

197991 Cpl. James Lonon 352300

197992 Pte. Edward Debuse 354770

197993 Pte. Sidney Dennis Barker 368013

197994 Pte. Robert Alfred Owen 368010 (Bar 1919)

197995 Sjt. John Robert Crisford 350196

197996 Pte. Harry Newman 352789

197997 ?

197998 Pte. William Blumire 324396 (6th Bn.)

197999 Pte. Edwin Daniels Marsh 495632 (6th Bn.)

198012 Sjt. John Thomas Percival 372688 (8th Bn.)

 

Following possibly for 26-27th August 1918?

198520 Pte. William Rae Murray 576223 (8th Bn.)

198521?

198522 Pte. Richard Bonner Williams 351061

198523 Pte. George Joseph Thompson 352285

198524 Pte. Oliver Foster 365085

198525 Pte. William Garrick Dalziel 375584 (8th Bn.)

198526 Pte. William George Sitch 375953 (8th Bn.)

198527 Pte. Herbert Edward Greig 368084 (7th Bn.)

198528 Pte. Henry Chapman Gibbon 348122 (6th Bn.)

198529 Pte Albert Morris 320646 (6th Bn.)

198530 Cpl. John Chetland 350268

198531 Pte. George Ernest Harvey 321612 (6th Bn.)

198532?

198533 Pte. Thomas Evans 323963 (6th Bn.)

 

Late August or early September awards?

199329 Pte. Christopher Gerald Griffin 354403 (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

199337 Pte. William Robert Mainprice 354424  (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

199338 Pte. Reginald Arthur Amsden 353379   (att'd 7th Middlesex Regt.)

 

199414 Pte. William Thomas Baldock 371291 (8th Bn.)

199425 Pte. Thomas Daley 323837 (6th Bn.)

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Found this at the end of the 8th London Battalion's War Diary for 1918. Herbert Greig died in the attack on Epehy on 8th september 1918. (TNA WO95/3006/1)

 

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