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I picked up this photo in France a few years ago, and have finally decided to find out if

anyone might know what it is ?

 

Under a magnifying glass, the marking at the front appears to be C.3

 

Appears to be a just post-war photo, or perhaps from when the front had moved on. The

officer appearing from the tank looks French, the two soldiers behind are British, and the

chap behind a civilian.....

 

WW1tank.jpg

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The crew were :

2Lt Stanley Darrell Houghton CLARKE  
2621 Cpl Reginald (Tubby) Frank SHAW.
2672 Gnr Ernest John EDWARDS 
2661 Gnr Alexander James GARDEN.  

2688 Gnr Charles Frederick PHILIPS,  
2727 Gnr Alfred Bernard SIMPSON. 
2617 Gnr George Kidd STONEHOUSE 
M2/033969 Pte Alfred BOULT ASC  

 

This image shows Chartreuse with Chablis to her rear shortly after the Battle of Flers-Courcelette.

Neither tank were recovered and both were broken up after the clearances of the battlefield
 

Might I share your new image with the members of the First Tank Crews research group?

C3 Chartreuse with C4 Chablis to her rear.jpg

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I think that it is c2 personally 

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4 hours ago, delta said:


 

Might I share your new image with the members of the First Tank Crews research group?

Sure.....that would be fine. In fact, if your guys could have a look at my other post on the Soldier's setction....

 

Looking for what unit this chap was with : 311863 David Kinnear ANDERSON, Tank Corps (ex Seaforth / Lab.Corps)

 

Thanks.

4 hours ago, delta said:

 

 

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On 15/11/2020 at 16:25, Steviebullsatatter said:

I think that it is c2 personally 

 

Interesting - can you tell me why you think it is C2 (Cognac), which was a female tank?

C2 did ditch but on the outskirts of Courcelette on 15 Sep and was dug out a couple of days later.

She also ditched on 26 Sep, east of Thiepval, but was recovered the same day, eventually making her way back to her base at the Loop (near Bray sur Somme)  on 1 Oct. 

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311383 David Kinnear ANDERSON, Tank Corps (ex Seaforth / Lab.Corps) - will do

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Not for any other reason than it appears to me to look like c2

 

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4 hours ago, Steviebullsatatter said:

Not for any other reason than it appears to me to look like c2

 

I can see how you might think that, but on balance it looks like a 3 to me. It has just got a bit more weathered and isn't very distinct.

 

Besides, if you compare the damage to the front end on both photos, and look at the first vertical line of rivets back from the front sprocket thingie, there is a hole just below the rearmost of the third pair of rivets down, with another higher up, a little further back, in about the middle of the plate, at the level of the second pair of rivets down, in both photos.  In the next plate back there is an elongated hole on the diagonal with a couple of round holes underneath.  They appear in both photos and the chances of two tanks showing such distinctive damage in the same places is... well for what it's worth I'd say it was the same tank.

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Absolutely piers..

Mine not based on foreknowledge or historical reading...just an observation. 

On a side note, my friends gt. Grandfather was i believe ,killed in that battle in a tank.

 

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4 hours ago, Steviebullsatatter said:

On a side note, my friends gt. Grandfather was i believe ,killed in that battle in a tank.

 

 

That's very interesting - can you share his name?

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Frederick Arscott 75930

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Arscott was killed on the opening day of the Battle of Cambrai ( 20 Nov 1917)

His body was found well away from the main thrust of D Battalion at K33a 0.7. which is in the G battalion area.

He is now buried at Hermies Hill British Cemetery.  

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Thanks 

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13 hours ago, INW said:

CSI Investigation ..... the bullet holes match it is C3.

 

Tank C3.pdf 42.24 kB · 9 downloads

 

Wishing I was visiting Cambrai today.....

 

INW 

 


Yes, as described on Monday!  

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