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What badge is this with a tank on it please


arantxa

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I think Its what's known as a Sweetheart s  Badge.  

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7 hours ago, arantxa said:

 

 


As Sepoy has accurately pointed out, it is the badge of the US Army Tank Corps.  I enclose images of collar badges.  There were several other items of insignia along similar lines, including collar disks.

 

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11 hours ago, arantxa said:

Is that Ww1 or ww2


WW1.

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Mr F ,    On the button, under the tank, WHAT are those animals, please. ???   :huh:

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3 minutes ago, bif said:

Mr F ,    On the button, under the tank, WHAT are those animals, please. ???   :huh:


I think they are supposed to be crocodiles, or perhaps more likely American alligators.  The allusion being to ‘tough skins’.

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Mr F,   Snout and ears don't seem right for a reptillian.  How about an armadillo?

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Partially squashed by the look of them!

My guess is some form of fire-breathing dragon  which looks a bit more likely on the OP.

 

Simon

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With ears, and from the top photo, I would suggest fire-breathing dragons!

 

Regards,

JMB

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3 minutes ago, JMB1943 said:

With ears, and from the top photo, I would suggest fire-breathing dragons!

 

Regards,

JMB


Yes I think you’re bang on correct JMB, I mistook the flames emitting from jaws as a long snout, but I really failed in not picking up on the ears 😳. Good spot.  Fire breathing dragons it is.

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Gentlemen,  Yes it is dragons.  Google "USA ww1 tank badge animal images".  Appears there are a bunch of diff ones used ?  

     Also found out slugs were used to warn of gas in the trenches !

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14 minutes ago, bif said:

 

     Also found out slugs were used to warn of gas in the trenches !

 

I vaguely recollect that factoid being discussed on the Forum somewhere before. I find it a splendid conversation-stopper at parties.

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Wish I'd recognised them as fire breathing dragons several posts ago.

 

Simon

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4 hours ago, bif said:

     Also found out slugs were used to warn of gas in the trenches !

Ah so that is the real reason why Baldrick stuck a slug under his nose in "Blackadder goes Forth".

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13 minutes ago, Sepoy said:

Ah so that is the real reason why Baldrick stuck a slug under his nose in "Blackadder goes Forth".

Ha ha brilliant!

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Dragons?

Dragons have tails.

I bet it's the same designer who designed the badly deformed cormorant for some KLR battalions but successfully passed it off as 'an Eagle and child'.

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so is it a sweet heart badge of a proper uniform badge 

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1 hour ago, arantxa said:

so is it a sweet heart badge of a proper uniform badge 


It is apparently ‘overseas cap’ insignia, which makes sense and I believe to be correct:  https://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/wwi-us-army-armored-officer-overseas-cap-insigniap-no-longer-available.html

 

Concerning the cap, see:

 

1.  https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/254296-ae-f-‘trench’-overseas-caps/
 

2.  http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/making_overseas-caps-pdf

 

The Tank Corps was the unit where George Patton of WW2 fame first gained his experience.

 

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I’ve been looking for pictures but have yet to find one.  Do you think it wasn’t used for long ?

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1 hour ago, arantxa said:

I’ve been looking for pictures but have yet to find one.  Do you think it wasn’t used for long ?


The branch was small initially, and the cap unpopular at first.  I doubt that very many such badges were made, although they certainly existed.  There seem to be more surviving collar badges.
In general US Army officers wore the eagle badge of the United States on peaked headdress, or a rank badge and disk on the overseas cap.  

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Thank you as usual your a font of knowledge 

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43 minutes ago, arantxa said:

Thank you as usual your a font of knowledge 


You are right to seek visual evidence.  The enclosed photos show George Patton as a Lieutenant Colonel and a full (‘Bird’) Colonel in the US Army Tank Corps.  In both ranks he wears just a rank badge on his overseas cap, but the correct (voided) collar badges.  It might be that the badge you have was for ranks below officer, but it would be nice to see proof of that.  All the images at the following link show the badge worn on the collar only: http://www.pattonthirdarmy.com/pattonww1.html

It would be useful to compare the dimensions of your badge with that type known to have been worn on the collar.

 

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