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Chris Burton

Hello guys anyone tell me whether a 90720 serial number would fall in a Berthier Ml1892 Carbine production..please

 

Cheers

 

Chris

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I cannot - my reference material on Berthiers is not that detailed.

The Model should however be engraved on the side of the receiver - it is on mine 

Mle.1890
Mle.1892
Mle.1902
Mle.1907
Mle.1907/15
Mle.M.16

 

The trouble is with modifications sometimes the format does not correspond to the markings!

THIS IS A GOOD SUMMARY of all the basics.

Chris

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What letter Block?  CHASSEPOT TO FAMAS lists several letter blocks that high, specifically for Mle 1892 only.

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It looks like a damaged letter C in that case it should be Chatellerault production, when is the damaged G range so probably Saint Etienne, anyway the exact maker should be on barell under upperguard as MAC 1916 to sample for Chattellerault and 1916 , there are english postwar stamps on reciever, on reciever is too the Model designation, M.92 is the oldest artillery carbine, is for 3 rounds?

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I see a "G".  There is a footnote in Chassepot to Famas on the 1892 serialization chart saying that Chatellerault skipped the C block. (Pg 253)

 

What date is the barrel? (Under handguard)  Do recall these were rebuilt extensively, and may have replacement barrels and updates.  Is it 5 or 3 rd?  We can already see a handguard, which is a post 1916 feature...

 

G90720 would be 1896 St Etienne according to the table.

 

 

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In case of G as corectly mentioned is Saint Etienne and should be prewar, anyway more details are under upperhandguard.

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Chris Burton

yes 5 shot converted not mine yet so have to ask about to hand guard removal!  sorry...that would match a MA stamp of 1903 on butt that i showed earlier on this thread,,, thanks again chaps..

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So Your piece is mostly M92/16. the handguard is easy to remove, the lower ring remove from butt or minimum move to barell front , open the backsight to vertically position, and carefully remove the handguard to top direction with rotating on backside in metall ring, wout damage on wood.

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Side spring should be pushed in to buttstock and rings move to front out of the handguard range.

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