6827 William Dunn Cheshire Regiment

[Guest]

My grandfather William Dunn was a reservist and replaced soldiers injured or killed at Mons. He himself was badly wounded later that year and invalidad home. His wound was so serious he never returned to France and was honourable discharged in 1916. I would love to know what date He joined the 1st Cheshire Regiment as I have all other information.

[butler]

The Silver War Badge roll gives a date of enlistment as 27.05.02

[clk]

Hi Alan,

 

Welcome to the forum.

Image sourced from Ancestry

 

Regards

Chris

[Chesterboy]

What’s does his MIC state as if he was a reservist, then he would have joined the battalion at Belfast and served at Mons.  
 

 

[BillyH]

1 hour ago, Alan Lowe said:

I would love to know what date He joined the 1st Cheshire Regiment as I have all other information.

 

If you do have 'all other information' then you would have found his enlistment date from his service papers here :

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=btL7&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&dbid=1219&gsfn=william&gsln=dunn&cp=11&_F0007CF4=cheshire regiment&_F8007A65=6827&new=1&rank=1&uidh=uk2&redir=false&msT=1&gss=angs-d&pcat=39&fh=3&h=601333&recoff=&ml_rpos=4&queryId=f4d4ca61e2eefe078d0463511d8f1698

 

(He enlisted at Altrincham 27th May 1902)

 

BillyH.

[Matlock1418]

Alan,

Welcome to GWF

1 hour ago, johnboy said:

Where was he from and aprox year of birth?

Pension Ledger record at Western Front Association/Fold 3 for William Dunn, 6827, has him born 1884, discharged 14.3.16 to 46 Warrington Road, Northwich, Cheshire

Also records he had a Disability, Gun Shot Wound Left Forearm 50% attributable or aggravated by service !! [apparently only 50% attrib ???] - the level of disability is shown as diminishing 40% to 30% 1920/21 but final level not clear as teh pension record remains conditional and has not been recorded as final

 

1 hour ago, BillyH said:

If you do have 'all other information' then you would have found his enlistment date from his service papers here

[I can't read the Ancestry file]

Think OP [just in case you are wondering Alan, that's you - Original post / original poster] was looking for date of rejoining from Reserve, not original enlistment.

Seems, as indicated above, quite likely August 1914 - but I'm sure the OP would like to try and firm up on that. if anyone can assist him

MIC has him landing in France 12.9.14 [Long, Long trail has 1CR landing 16.8.14 - so he seems behind the main body]

... back to Team GWF

:-) M

Edited 14 September , 2020 by Matlock1418
addit

[sadbrewer]

From The Manchester Evening News Roll of Honour, February 2nd, 1915.

Courtesy of the British Newspaper Archive. 

 

 

 

The Liverpool Daily Post, December 8th, 1914.

 

 

Edited 14 September , 2020 by sadbrewer

[clk]

Hi,

 

1 hour ago, Matlock1418 said:

date of rejoining from Reserve, not original enlistment.

 

It looks like 4.8.1914 from the 'D' Reserve. Though from the war diary (linked below) it seems that he may have joined the Battalion in Londonderry a couple of days later. It notes 408 Reservists joining from the Regimental Depot at Chester on 7th August, and 48 on the 8th.

Image sourced from Findmypast

 

Edit:

 

Wounded 19.11.1914 - war diary link. 

Image sourced from Findmypast

 

Regards

Chris

Edited 14 September , 2020 by clk

[ss002d6252]

Section D would make sense - his 12 years with the Colours/Section B would have ended on 26 May 1914 and he extended with a additional 4 year Section D service.

Craig

[Don Regiano]

3 hours ago, Matlock1418 said:

MIC has him landing in France 12.9.14 [Long, Long trail has 1CR landing 16.8.14 - so he seems behind the main body

 

Presumably part of the cadre that replaced the heavy losses in the retreat from Mons towards the end of August.

[BillyH]

8 hours ago, Matlock1418 said:

Gun Shot Wound Left Forearm 50% attributable or aggravated by service !! [apparently only 50% attrib ???] 

 

I may be wrong but I always thought that "Due to 50%" meant that the degree of disability was rated at 50% - and it was due to his war service.

 

BillyH.

[Matlock1418]

9 hours ago, BillyH said:

I may be wrong but I always thought that "Due to 50%" meant that the degree of disability was rated at 50% - and it was due to his war service.

I have looked at thousands of cards - The addition of a % on that place on a pension ledger is rather unusual and probably a minority type of entry in my opinion/experience [I recognise it is not a unique style of entry] - such % figures are however more commonly found on the reverse of a ledger card where the intention is clearer as I also indicated in this case [a considerable number of people seem to only look at the front of cards - and when found there is of interest I am sure/hope - but the rear is also illuminating, often more so in my opinion]

However, I suspect you are right / I too feel that was probably the original intention when written - but it did made for a rather strange initial reading for me.

Maybe I should not have added a 'funny' for a new member and/or at least a wink for older pals! - apologies - I hope no significant confusion caused.

:-) M