Could some one help me I’d this big signed photo please

[arantxa]

Thanks 

[ss002d6252]

Their Army Service Corps.

MSS E J Justice has a surviving service record.

 

So it looks like it is either 369 or 710 company.

 

Craig

[ss002d6252]

There is also a record for Arthur Bullock.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007294757%2f00227&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7294757%2f9%2f215

 

So, I'd say, 710 Co - after 15 Mar 1917

 

Craig

[arantxa]

Thank you 

he must have got everyone to sign it

 

[headgardener]

There don't appear to be any medal ribbons, GC chevrons, o/s service chevrons, or wound stripes - or at least I can't see any in the small close-up snippets. 

 

On that basis, I'd have thought that the photo is unlikely to have been taken much later than 1916. Or maybe it's a newly formed unit made up largely of recent recruits. 

 

That's quite a research project for you! 

[PRC]

Bertie Cheshire - probably M/301077, enlisted February 1916, mobilised 15th March 1917, reported to 710 Company at some point in 1917, no overseas service.

 

Courtesy FindMyPast

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

[arantxa]

Thank you.    I’m just pleased to find out what regt it’s been kicking around for years 

thanks 

[Buffnut453]

This looks like a fantastic resource.  Tracking the history of ASC personnel is challenging because the MICs seldom give the actual unit in which a soldier served.  Given that we know the unit and have all the names, I would recommend making the information available for others who may have relatives that appear on this image. 

 

Perhaps Ancestry.com or FindMyPast might be interested in a transcript of the names?

[tharkin56]

if you go to Find My past you might find other photos of the men listed but if you list names you get more help for each 

[PRC]

Looking at the information gathered so far, I suspect home service only, so other than Silver War Badges, no MiC's.

 

And a slight fly in the ointment, although it could simply be that I need a sight test

 

Using Geoffs' Searching Engine with criteria "Unit contains 710" and "Regiment/Corps = Army Service Corps" brings up nine matches, of which 8 probably belonged to this unit - the other is shown as 710th Labour Company. But none of the 8 appear to be on this picture.  Two can potentially be accounted for - they died before Bullock and Cheshire joined the Company. Another didn't join them until 1918.

 

Brief details look like this:-

 

1) Private T/419458 William Henry Dominc Allright, 710th Coy, Mechanical Transport, ASC. Died 18/11/1918, aged 30. Buried Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey.

Son of George and Margaret Allright, of Kentish Town, London; husband of Ethel R. Allright, of 32, Wilkin St., Kentish Town. London.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/398307/

In the Picture = ? see below for probably why not included.

Civil Death Register = No obvious match in England & Wales.

Surviving Service Records – Yes. Didn’t attest until the 12th April 1918 – looks like following a medical regrading. He looks like he was transferred to Packers & Loaders, Norwood, 25/05/1918. Died at the Barracks Hospital. Only then does the unit show as 710 Company.

 

2) Private S/368211 Norman Davies, 710th Coy, Mechanical Transport, ASC. Died 21/10/1917, age 47. Buried Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey

Son of Charles Edwin and Maria Anne Davies, of Tipton, Staffs.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/398430/

In the Picture = ?

Civil Death Register = Norman Davies, aged 46, St Giles District of London, Q4 1917.

Surviving Service Records – No

 

3) Private DM2/179867 H C. Dunn, 710th M.T. Coy (Barnesbury), ASC. Died 30th January 1917, aged 39. Buried Kensal Green (All Souls’) Cemetery, London.

Husband of L. M. Dunn, of 55, Elmore St., Essex Rd., Hoxton, London.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2905678/

SDGW = Horace Charles Dunn. Born and resident Islington, enlisted Grove Park.

In the Picture = – but almost certainly picture taken after he died.

Civil Death Register = Horace C. Dunn, aged 38, St Giles District of London Q1 1917.

 

4) Private M/074134 A.B. Hawes, 710th Coy, Mechanical Transport, ASC. Died 01/10/1917, aged 54. Buried Brockwood Cemetery, Surrey.

Son of Henry and Caroline Hawes. Native of Great Yarmouth.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/398543/

SDGW = Arthur Benjamin Hawes, born, resident and enlisted Great Yarmouth.

In the Picture = ?

Civil Death Register = Arthur B. Hawes, aged 54, St Giles District of London, Q4 1917.

Surviving Service Records – No

 

5) Private M/180096 W. Sanderson, 710th M.T. Coy (Barnesbury), ASC. Died 08/12/1916. Buried Kensal Green (All Souls’) Cemetery, London.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2905887/

SDGW = William Sanderson, born Ballymurrelt, County Down, resident Southport, Lancashire, enlisted Belfast.

In the Picture = ? – but almost certainly picture taken after he died.

Civil Death Register = Considering the death location of others, the death of a 39 year old William Sanderson, registered in the St Giles District of London in Q4 1916.

 

6) Serjeant M2/079000 George Selby Smith, 710th M.T. Coy, ASC. Died 22/03/1918. Buried Leytonstone (St Patrick’s) Roman Catholic Cemetery, London.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/356115/

In the Picture = ?

Civil Death Register = No obvious candidate in England & Wales.

Surviving Service Records – No

 

7) Private M2/203733 Arthur Burton Webb, 710th M.T. Coy, ASC. Died 04/09/1917, aged 19. Buried Chingford Mount Cemetery, Essex.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/356962/

In the Picture = ?

Civil Death Register = Arthur B. Webb, aged 19 Q3 1917 St Giles District, London.

Surviving Service Records – Yes. Enlisted 29th June 1916. Joined 710th MT Company from 700 MT Coy 23/01/1917. Died at the Military Hospital, Endell Street, W.C.2 (Is there a thread going on that Hospital?)

 

8) Private DM2/180019 C.T. Yell, 710th M.T. Coy, ASC. Died 02/11/1918. Remembered Islington Cemetery and Crematorium, Middlesex.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/387649/

SDGW = Charles Thomas Yell, born London, resident Islington and enlisted Grove Park.

In the Picture = ?

Civil Death Register =  Charles T. Yell, aged 43 Q4 1918 St Giles District of London.

Surviving Service Records – No

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

Edited 8 August , 2020 by PRC
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[tootrock]

The officers in this photograph would presumably have had longer service careers. I can just make out Major Frank Bale. There is an MIC for a Major with this name who was in the ASC.

If we could have photo of the names of the other officers this might help in identification.

Martin

[PRC]

On 08/08/2020 at 14:35, arantxa said:

 

 

 

I believe the first column reads:-

 

Clifford Sleeper \ Steeper????

 

Bertie Cheshire – see post 6

 

S. Lilaks????

 

D. Wedge

 

W.H. Guest – Possible. MiC match for Private 4/51275 William H. Guest, Sherwood Foresters, who finished the war as Private M/332232 Army Service Corps – medals issued by RASC.

No surviving service records.

 

A.J. Orton – Possible MiC match for a Private M/338280 Albert J Orton, ASC. No surviving service records.

 

W.G. Wareham. The Surrey Recruitment Register has a 41 year old Publican, W.G. Wareham, who was conscriped and mobilised at Kingston into the Army Service Corps (MT) on the 2nd April 1917, Service number allocated is shown as 35670. Home address was 138 Upper Richmond Road, Putney.

On the 1911 Census of England & Wales there is a 35 year old Public House Manager William Wareham, born Poplar, was recorded as the married head of the household at 2 Railway Place, Fenchurch Street, (London), EC. However I couldn’t readily find anything to indicate he had a middle name.

 

B. Holt.

 

J. Jameson.

 

G.? Macklin.

 

Wm(?) G. Rolfe – possible MiC match Private M/376534 William George Rolfe – second MiC has him as Private G/1344 William G. Rolfe, The Queens Regiment, then M/376534 ASC. Medals issued by the RASC. Surviving Discharge Records. Discharged 10/09/18 no longer physically fit to serve, was in the UK from the 9th March 1917 after 19 months in France. But wasn’t transferred to the ASC until 16/02/1918 and served at the Isleworth Depot.

 

G? Brice.

 

W H Nunn.

 

J. W. Bonham.

 

???????

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

[arantxa]

Blimey !!

Thats brilliant !!!!!

I will do the names as clear as I can 

[arantxa]

[tootrock]

Regarding the Officers.

T(homas) C(ampbell) Brown, Lt., RASC has an MIC and a file in the National Archives. He previously served with the Royal Irish Rifles.

Frank H Bale, Major, RASC has an MIC

I can also make out C.Shaw.

I fancy the last name may be Prendergast.

Can't make out the third name.

Martin

Edited 10 August , 2020 by tootrock

[PRC]

On 08/08/2020 at 14:35, arantxa said:

 

 

 

Right hand column - Please note these are my best guesses

 

Frank Hughes

 

Herbert Bryars(?)

 

C.W. White

 

Goddard

 

L.W. Horsfield

 

G. Parrott – Surviving Service record for George Parrott M/300098 joined 710 Company from Grove Park on (possibly) 19/03/1917 – writing is very faded. No overseas service.

 

H.B. Fry

 

G.F.W. Weyman. Civil birth records for England and Wales has a George Frederick W. Weyman registered  in the District of Shoreditch  in the July to September quarter, (Q3), of 1883. Most likely match on the 1911 Census of England & Wales is a 27 year old Frederick George Weyman, a Travelling salesman in Dentistry, who was recorded as the married hed of the household at 136 Old Kent Road, Small Heath, Birmingham. He and wife Lilian have lost their only child so far. A George Frederick Weyman most likely married a Lilian Wilson in the Pontypridd District of Glamorganshire, Q4 1907. The birth of a Kathleen Weyman, mothers’ maiden name Weyman was recorded in the St Pancras District of London, Q2 1914.  A George F.W. Weyman, a married man working as a Government Clerk in the Ministry of Labour and born 12th August 1883, was recorded as the fourth person in the household at 15 Siddorn Street, Winsford, Cheshire. The first and second person in the household are a younger couple, with the husband also working as a Government Clerk in the Ministry of Labour. George is probably a boarder. Lilian and Kathleen were living in a married couples household in Kenton, Middlesex. The death of a George F W Weyman aged 82 was recorded in the Bathavon District of Somerset in Q1 1965. No obvious civil probate.

 

J or T N Lowrie

 

A.J Seward?

 

A.G. Boxall

 

H.V. Grunslade

 

Cheers,

Peter

Edited 11 August , 2020 by PRC
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[headgardener]

36 minutes ago, PRC said:

A.J Seward?

 

 

 

 

H.V. Grunslade

 

My guess on these two would be.... 

 

A. J. or F. Tweed

 

L. W. Greenslade (I reckon that there are small full-stops before and after the 'W') 

[helpjpl]

Alfred Edwin Steward-Chaney:

 

 

Born:  29 May 1894

Married :  Elizabeth Crouch

Died:  1978

 

Service Record (ancestry):

 

JP