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Russ Platt

Hi


I am trying to trace my great great uncle.
 

I attach a copy of a photograph of Tom or Thomas PEARCE. I remember my grandmother giving me this photograph 50 years ago. I think that he was her uncle and that he had served in Turkey and died of wounds or possibly the flu on the return journey towards the end of the war - possibly in Greece. All this is rather hazy and other than the village of his birth I do not have any other information. I would love to trace him and his memorial.

 

Tom was from Wiltshire and most of the rest of the family lived in Swindon and worked for the GWR.

 

I have looked through various catalogues of cap badges. The nearest match that I have found is that of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. I suppose this is possible but perhaps unlikely.
 

All help much appreciated.
 

Russ

 

 

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Michelle Young

Looks like RDF to me as well. Lots of Wiltshire men ended up in the 10th Irish Division.What was his full name? 

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PRC
25 minutes ago, Russ Platt said:

I am trying to trace my great uncle.
 

I attach a copy of a photograph of Tom or Thomas. I remember my grandmother giving me this photograph 50 years ago. I think that he was her uncle and that he had served in Turkey and died of wounds or possibly the flu on the return journey towards the end of the war - possibly in Greece. All this is rather hazy and other than the village of his birth I do not have any other information.

 

Hi,

 

A surname and any other family related information - like the village of birth - would be a big help. Looks like he has three overseas service chevrons on his left forearm.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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The Inspector

Hi

As Peter has posted, 3 chevrons indicate 12 years service. Any name of any relative is a starter.

Regards Barry

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Michelle Young

The chevrons are good conduct stripes , or has the photo been reversed and in fact they are overseas chevrons which should be right wrist? 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
5 minutes ago, Michelle Young said:

The chevrons are good conduct stripes , or has the photo been reversed and in fact they are overseas chevrons which should be right wrist? 

No , the photo is not reversed.The left side of his jacket overlaps the right side correctly as mens' jackets should.

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Russ Platt
19 minutes ago, PRC said:

 

Hi,

 

A surname and any other family related information - like the village of birth - would be a big help. Looks like he has three overseas service chevrons on his left forearm.

 

Cheers,

Peter

Hi Peter

 

I managed to delete his surname when I was editing........

 

His surname was Pearce - my grandmother’s maiden name. He was born in Winterbourne Monkton near Avebury in Wiltshire.

 

Russ

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Russ Platt
27 minutes ago, The Inspector said:

Hi

As Peter has posted, 3 chevrons indicate 12 years service. Any name of any relative is a starter.

Regards Barry

Hi Barry

 

His surname was Pearce.

 

Thanks

 

Russ

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
3 minutes ago, Russ Platt said:

Any name of any relative is a starter.

And your grandmother's name was...?

And siblings please.

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Russ Platt

Alice Pearce (later Platt). I have traced a lot of her family - all on Ancestry but have not linked him to the tree. 

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

Ok.

There are only 4 RDF deaths in the Great War for anyone called Pearce.

No Toms.

One R. Pearce in Turkey, but that was 1915.

 

His age or date of birth, also Alice's so we can locate her in the censuses.

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The Inspector

Hi Russ

If you can make this a bit easier.....is your tree a public tree on Ancestry? If it is it will save us a lot of time.

Regards Barry

 

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Russ Platt

I do not have anything else for Thomas. The only clues we have to his age are his appearance in the photo and now the 12 years service.

 

Alice was born 16th May 1898. Alice Maud Mary Pearce. He father Frederick Pearce 1871.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
2 minutes ago, The Inspector said:

Hi Russ

If you can make this a bit easier.....is your tree a public tree on Ancestry? If it is it will save us a lot of time.

Regards Barry

 

I'm guessing it's this lady:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/29091546/person/12133698709/facts

 

Russ.

What Barry said.

You need to sort the genealogy out first before trying to fit in the military history.

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The Inspector

Hi Russ and all

I thought I had the right tree same as Dai. 1911 census there is a Tomas Edward Harper lodging with the Pearce family at 27 Union St., Swindon.....looking

 

 

Regards Barry

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Russ Platt

Hi Barry

 

That is my tree.

 

Harper is a family name - Alice’s mother’s maiden name. I have our soldier as Tom Pearce in my Dad’s handwriting on the back of the photograph. Perhaps in error though.... Is there a Tomas Harper associated with the RDF?

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The Inspector

Hi Russ

There is a Thomas William Harper RDF d.8.8.1917 40480...looking

Regards Barry

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Russ Platt

However, we do know that our chap was a solider from 1906 even if the photo was as late as 1918. Tomas Harper is listed as a farm labourer. Unless our chap re-enlisted and the stripes showed total rather than continuous service?

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr

The only male Pearce born to mother maiden name Harper between 1890 & 1903 was Edward Frederick in 1899 .

Was Tom her brother, a half brother?

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Russ Platt

Thanks Dai

 

My memory is that he was Alice’s uncle rather than brother. However this was a one-time conversation with my grandmother 50 years ago when I was seven.......

 

She gave me the photo. Dad must have found it years later and added the name and village.

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Myrtle

Thomas Harper was probably Alice's mother's brother, as she was a Harper before marriage. 

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Russ Platt

Barry

 

It looks as though Thomas William Harper was a cockney?

 

Russ

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Russ Platt

Hi Myrtle

 

Perhaps but the strongest source still has his as Pearce rather than Harper.

 

Russ

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
1 hour ago, Russ Platt said:

I am trying to trace my great uncle

Your great uncle would be your grandmother's brother.

So are you saying he might be your great great uncle?

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Myrtle
12 minutes ago, The Inspector said:

Hi Russ

There is a Thomas William Harper RDF d.8.8.1917 40480...looking

Regards Barry

What about this one ?

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