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Private 23137 Frank Dicker, East Surrey Regiment


HTSCF Fareham

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I'm researching the above chap who died from pneumonia on 30/01/1919 aged 34, with the 2nd Battalion and is buried at Haidar Pasha Cemetery, Turkey.

 

I appreciate that War Diaries are not available, but was wondering if someone had a reliable alternative source?

 

What I would like to know is when did he enlist (Chichester) and where and what were the cirumstances of his demise?

 

Thanks!

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A (limited) transcription of the war diaries for the East Surrey Regiment and The Queens (Royal West Surrey Regiment) can be accessed here

http://qrrarchive.websds.net/menu1.aspx?li=1

 

The entry for the 30th January 1919 for the 2nd Battalion East Surreys for example can be seen here:

http://qrrarchive.websds.net/PDF/ES00219190103.pdf

 

His entry on the Register of Soldiers Effects may confirm place of death. Unfortunately I don't have a subscription access to Ancestry.

 

The CWGC webpage for Haidar Pasha Cemetery includes in the history section "after the Armistice, when Istanbul was occupied, further burials were made, mainly from No.82 General Hospital." It also lists sites concentrated into that cemetery post-war, but there is no Concentration Report on the webpage for Frank Dicker so I think that can probably be discounted as a consideration.

 

There is no obvious Civil Probate (and no Soldiers Will) for him.

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

 

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35 minutes ago, PRC said:

A (limited) transcription of the war diaries for the East Surrey Regiment and The Queens (Royal West Surrey Regiment) can be accessed here

http://qrrarchive.websds.net/menu1.aspx?li=1

 

The entry for the 30th January 1919 for the 2nd Battalion East Surreys for example can be seen here:

http://qrrarchive.websds.net/PDF/ES00219190103.pdf

 

His entry on the Register of Soldiers Effects may confirm place of death. Unfortunately I don't have a subscription access to Ancestry.

 

The CWGC webpage for Haidar Pasha Cemetery includes in the history section "after the Armistice, when Istanbul was occupied, further burials were made, mainly from No.82 General Hospital." It also lists sites concentrated into that cemetery post-war, but there is no Concentration Report on the webpage for Frank Dicker so I think that can probably be discounted as a consideration.

 

There is no obvious Civil Probate (and no Soldiers Will) for him.

 

Hope that helps,

Peter

 

 

Nice one, Peter.

 

This is the entry from Ancestry.

 

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Think I might have answered the place of death.

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In the absence of a service record or civil probate and with the Register of Soldiers Effects merely showing death at Constantinople by sickness \ pneumonia?, all I could see to go on is the sentence on the CWGC webpage for the cemetery. That would seem to make it likely he died at No.82 General Hospital, although is not definative. A copy of his death certificate would probably be required for that, as it would seem unusual that even an appearance in the local newspapers would be so specific as to give the number of the hospital.

 

However does happen just enough to make it worthwhile trying the newspaper route.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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3 minutes ago, PRC said:

In the absence of a service record or civil probate and with the Register of Soldiers Effects merely showing death at Constantinople by sickness \ pneumonia?, all I could see to go on is the sentence on the CWGC webpage for the cemetery. That would seem to make it likely he died at No.82 General Hospital, although is not definative. A copy of his death certificate would probably be required for that, as it would seem unusual that even an appearance in the local newspapers would be so specific as to give the number of the hospital.

 

However does happen just enough to make it worthwhile trying the newspaper route.

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

Nice one, Peter, I'll give this a look now.

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Alas, nothing about my chap, other than the marriage of his daughter a few years later.

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