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susie B

My Great Grand Uncle George Bartell (b1896) served in the Duke Of Cornwall Light Infantry in WW1.  I am having trouble reading the information

on his medal card. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  Regards.

george bartell 1896 2.JPG

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Michelle Young

Welcome to the forum. Please can you acknowledge the source of the image as per forum requirements. For explanation of how to read a medal card, there is plenty of information on the Long Long Trail website which is linked below. 

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/how-to-research-a-soldier/campaign-medal-records/how-to-interpret-a-campaign-medal-index-card/

 

Michelle 

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susie B
Posted (edited)

The source was from Ancestry.au for which I am a member.  I have no other information.  I have read the information on The Long Long Trail however am having trouble deciphering the writing.  All I know is that he was a Lieutenant in the Duke Of Cornwall Light Infantry in 1914. Regards.

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Keith_history_buff

Hi Susie,
The card merely documents that, in addition to the BWM & VM, he received the 1914 Star, and was issued the clasp and roses. The Long Long Trail will explain this in greater detail.

A clearer transcription of his units and ranks are that he started the war as a Private, was commissioned, and later served with the Labour Corps. 

He does not have an Other Ranks record in the WO 363 or WO 364 series. It would appear that his info was put into his officer file (WO 374 series). This paper record exists, and one day it will be possible for a researcher to go to Kew to view or photograph the pages within the file. It has not been digitised.

 

Source of data trawl: British Army Ancestors
https://britisharmyancestors.co.uk/search-result/?q=george+bartell

Thanks
Keith

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susie B

Thank you so very much Keith.  Greatly appreciate your assistance.

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Kimberley John Lindsay

Dear All and susie B,

That is a "busy" Medal Index Card.

Strange that both 14 Star and 15 Star are entered...

No actual date of Commission, which is perhaps unusual.

When TNA re-opens, there will be a "run" on Officers' papers, no doubt!

Kindest regards,

Kim.

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RussT

His DCLI service number with a 3/ prefix was indicative of him being a special reservist.

 

Regards

 

Russ

 

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archangel9
Posted (edited)

His entry date 19/09/1914 indicates he was almost certainly posted to 1st Bn  DCLI -

 

http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/regiments-and-corps/the-british-infantry-regiments-of-1914-1918/duke-of-cornwalls-light-infantry/

 

The 15 Star roll entry is a mistake and probably indicates a commission and subsequent entry date that would have entitled him to 1915 Star had he not already

served in theatre of war as a Private.

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Kimberley John Lindsay

Dear archange19,

Many thanks for your succinct clarification.

Yet another good example of the massed expertise of the Great War Forum in action. Well done!

Kindest regards,

Kim.

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Dave66
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Gazette has him commissioned in May 1918,

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30684/supplement/5823

 

And Lt from Nov 1919....3rd Bn D.C.L.I.

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31727/supplement/491

Dave.

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susie B

Thank you to all those that replied. Greatly appreciated. 

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