Was suprised to see no cwg for this chap

[Steviebullsatatter]

Is there a reason why an officer  wouldn't have a war grave..who was this chap and how did he die 

[michaeldr]

13 minutes ago, Steviebullsatatter said:

who was this chap and how did he die 

"Killed whilst flying"

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/368173#&gid=null&pid=2

[Dolphin]

2Lt John Hardie of No 3 Training Depot Station was killed on 5 February 1918 while flying DH5 B365 when he was forced to land in partial fog at dusk.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Gareth

 

 

[Keith_history_buff]

A different question worth asking would be "When did CWGC headstones first appear in the UK". There is a cemetery near me which contains the graves of two Zeebrugge raid fatalities. I would estimate that the surviving gravestone of one of the men has been there since May 1918 and is a private headstone, not one from CWGC.

[Jim Strawbridge]

My understanding is that the CWGC is there to recognise and celebrate war dead. Some casualties were buried at home and had private headstones provided by the family in a plot, perhaps purchased by the family. The CWGC is not there to place a CWGC headstone on every grave that qualified. Where a CWGC headstone is placed is where there is no grave marker or the family has requested it. The CWGC is not going to come along and uproot existing headstones just to put their own headstone there.

[Matlock1418]

4 minutes ago, Jim Strawbridge said:

My understanding is that the CWGC is there to recognise and celebrate war dead. Some casualties were buried at home and had private headstones provided by the family in a plot, perhaps purchased by the family. The CWGC is not there to place a CWGC headstone on every grave that qualified. Where a CWGC headstone is placed is where there is no grave marker or the family has requested it. The CWGC is not going to come along and uproot existing headstones just to put their own headstone there.

Occasionally [surprisingly quite often really] you see both private and CWGC headstones on the same grave

:-) M

[Jim Strawbridge]

 

23 hours ago, Matlock1418 said:

Occasionally [surprisingly quite often really] you see both private and CWGC headstones on the same grave

:-) M

 

Yes, I know of a number of instances.

Edited 11 June , 2020 by Jim Strawbridge

[Matlock1418]

5 hours ago, Jim Strawbridge said:

Yes, I know of a number of instances.

Re: your NZ photo example in post #7 above.

It is interesting to note the CWGC 'Grave Registration' document on their site indicates "Stone erected privately" [not clear if that is the larger and/or smaller]

I am not sure that the smaller headstone is a CWGC stone / design = ??? [it's the small fern and initialised N.Z.E.F. that is concerning me most] = It is likely that Terry Denham will clarify for us!

 

Here's one I spotted = PEARSON, S. 5171 Woodford (Christ Church) Churchyard, Cheshire - looks CWGC to me.

Looks quite new and yet the older one still seems to serve a clear purpose - I wonder why the CWGC was added = ??? = Ditto re: TD

:-) M

 

Edit: - I'm guessing re: Pearson above = because somebody asked CWGC to do so and they are duty bound to supply - TD will be likely to clarify I feel sure.

 

 

Edited 11 June , 2020 by Matlock1418
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[Steviebullsatatter]

Chaps..so sorry for taking so long to read your replies. 

Thankyou for taking the time to reply.

Very informative and interesting. 

Steve