2pwrr Posted 23 May , 2020 Share Posted 23 May , 2020 F d helmore and pte f rigby 297 sbac any light on these two please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 23 May , 2020 Admin Share Posted 23 May , 2020 Welcome to the forum. As you had posted on a very old thread, I've split this into a new topic. Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Hello room I need so expert help I'm trying to find two soldiers F d helmore lieutenant and private f rigby, All I have to go with is 297 siege battery ammunition column. And a date 7th June 1917. Any help would be fantastic Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 (edited) whats the relevance of the date ? this might be Helmore , cant be many with this name and initials as an officer https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=XGX131&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&indiv=1&_phtarg=XGX130&dbid=1262&gsfn=f d&gsln=helmore&cp=0&new=1&rank=1&uidh=fdm&redir=false&msT=1&gss=angs-d&pcat=39&fh=0&h=10979895&recoff=&ml_rpos=1&queryId=13f6709b703987bb01c015a37860907a Edited 24 May , 2020 by Coldstreamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmelling1979 Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 (edited) Hello So far... Temp Lt F D Helmore in the ASC later promoted to Captain ? https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5119&h=1272063&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BcR16193&_phstart=successSource John Edited 24 May , 2020 by johnmelling1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Hi all The date is just something I have I don't know of what relevance, and the ypres coat of arms . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 24 May , 2020 Admin Share Posted 24 May , 2020 7th June 1917 was the opening day of the battle of Messines. Any relevance? Do you have an artefact with the names and date inscribed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Yes I do from lt to pte on 7june 1917 ypres coat of arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 24 May , 2020 Admin Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Can you share a photo of it please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Very feint even to the naked eye Worn out really took me a while to work out what it says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clk Posted 24 May , 2020 Share Posted 24 May , 2020 (edited) Hi 2pwrr, From the index of long numbers: Image sourced from the National Archives His service file is here. His original commission: Images sourced from The London Gazette 297 Siege Battery war diary - link (but June/July/August 1917 seems to be missing from it). His medal index card Images sourced from Ancestry He appears to have been born circa 1882, and in 1928 was a farmer in New Zealand. He seems to have died in NZ on 31.12.1933 Regards Chris Edited 24 May , 2020 by clk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Ok so we know that Capt helmore survived ww1, pte rigby ? And I would like to find out why helmore had this casing made and engraved with that date from him to rigby with ypres coat of arms , it's a tobacco pot , but big n heavy to carry about lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 24 May , 2020 Admin Share Posted 24 May , 2020 It's the base of a shell case by the look of it. Might be worth greeting hold of a copy of the War diary (currently free on the National Archives website) to see I found that gives any information. Or maybe Pte Rigby was servant to Lt Helmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Am I right to think capt helmore moved over to the tank brigade ? Maybe the shell was a leaving present to his servant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pwrr Posted 24 May , 2020 Author Share Posted 24 May , 2020 Possibly supply tanks at messiness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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