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2pwrr

 F d helmore and pte f rigby 297 sbac any light on these two please .

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Michelle Young

Welcome to the forum. As you had posted on a very old thread, I've split this into a new topic.

Michelle 

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2pwrr

Hello room 

I need so expert help 

I'm trying to find two soldiers 

F d helmore lieutenant and private f rigby,

All I have to go with is 

297 siege battery ammunition column.  

And a date 7th June 1917. 

Any help would be fantastic

Thanks 

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Coldstreamer
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johnmelling1979
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Hello

 

So far...

 

Temp Lt F D Helmore in the ASC later promoted to Captain ?

 

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=5119&h=1272063&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BcR16193&_phstart=successSource

 

John

 

Edited by johnmelling1979

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2pwrr

Hi all

The date is just something I have I don't know of what relevance, and the ypres coat of arms .

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Michelle Young

7th June 1917 was the opening day of the battle of Messines. Any relevance? Do you have an artefact with the names and date inscribed? 

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2pwrr

Yes I do from lt to pte on 7june 1917 ypres coat of arms

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Michelle Young

Can you share a photo of it please? 

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2pwrr

Very feint even to the naked eye

Worn out really took me a while to work out what it says  

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clk
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Hi 2pwrr,

 

From the index of long numbers:

 

image.png.b43071b43ae35c7143e1762f1ad76a93.png

Image sourced from the National Archives

 

His service file is here.

 

 

His original commission:

image.png.eb4021d20bc1c156c8c295ea71f554a2.png

image.png.90740a96f1378b7eb233c30f7bffb733.png

image.png.02c06dc2c62f7663b0fc853f4d5402ab.png

Images sourced from The London Gazette

 

297 Siege Battery war diary - link (but June/July/August 1917 seems to be missing from it).

 

His medal index card

image.png.009a8cf58f86574dba9ed0ebe8f5e6d4.png

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Images sourced from Ancestry

 

He appears to have been born circa 1882, and in 1928 was a farmer in New Zealand. He seems to have died in NZ on 31.12.1933

 

Regards

Chris

 

 

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2pwrr

Ok so we know that Capt helmore survived ww1, pte rigby ? And I would like to find out why helmore had this casing made and engraved with that date from him to rigby with ypres coat of arms , it's a tobacco pot , but big n heavy to carry about lol

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Michelle Young

It's the base of a shell case by the look of it. Might be worth greeting hold of a copy of the War diary (currently free on the National Archives website) to see I found that gives any information. Or maybe Pte Rigby was servant to Lt Helmore? 

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2pwrr

Am I right to think capt helmore moved over to the tank brigade ? Maybe the shell was a leaving present to his servant ? 

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2pwrr

Possibly supply tanks at messiness?

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