Admin Michelle Young Posted 11 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 11 October , 2021 The architect is my favourite CWGC architect. There’s a literary connection in here, the son of an (in) famous father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 15 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 15 October , 2021 No takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2021 I have been trying to remember if you've ever mentioned your favourite IWGC architect, but I can't bring a name to mind. As for the literary connection I keep thinking of Kim Philby or one of the spies of 50's whose father is buried at Ypres. Or I could have got that completely wrong; either way it's the wrong combination of father and son and not notably literary. It's not the last resting place of Oscar Wilde's son possibly? That's just come to me and I'm now going to have to remember what surname he used, as I don't think it was Wilde. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 15 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 15 October , 2021 You are certainly getting warm Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2021 Just now, Michelle Young said: You are certainly getting warm Pete That's rather useful Michelle since after a beautiful sunny autumn day it's getting a bit parky out here on the coast, but as we all know it's grim up north. As they say in the movies "I'll be back". Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2021 The offending bit of cable runs along the Rue des Charbonniers (Coalmen's St) and the cemetery is St Vaast Post in Richebourg L'Avoue. The literary connection is the grave of Captain Cyril Holland, eldest son of Oscar Wilde. Is the legendary Richebourg boulangerie anywhere close by the way? Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 15 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 15 October , 2021 Correct Pete, and the architect is Charles Holden. The Boulangerie isn’t far. A splendid Chambre d’Hotes, La Niche, is also quite close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2021 1 hour ago, Michelle Young said: The Boulangerie isn’t far. A splendid Chambre d’Hotes, La Niche, is also quite close. I've just spent a happy half hour planning a walking tour based there. Givenchy and Festubert, Egbert's grandad at Merville, Neuve Chapelle and along the Aubers ridge, up to Bois Grenier and Erquinghem-Lys. If I can get a bus I'd also like to do the front lines through Houplines and Frelinghein and on to Ploegsteert and the Messines ridge. I'd suggest it to Marilyne but I'd never keep up. That said she's now senior enough to call in helicopter support in extremis. I could be airlifted to Ieper for emergency fresh waffles..... Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 15 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 15 October , 2021 1 hour ago, Michelle Young said: Charles Holden I should also have remembered your fondness for Holden; I took one look at his tube stations and it came flooding back. I can't remember the context but I do remember the work. Not bad for a lad from Bolton. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyne Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 17 hours ago, Fattyowls said: That said she's now senior enough to call in helicopter support in extremis. I could be airlifted to Ieper for emergency fresh waffles.... The helicopter might be a tad difficult... budget cuts and all... But the emergency waffles can be gotten by the Tank 2.0 ! M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaren Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 21 hours ago, Fattyowls said: The offending bit of cable runs along the Rue des Charbonniers (Coalmen's St) and the cemetery is St Vaast Post in Richebourg L'Avoue. The literary connection is the grave of Captain Cyril Holland, eldest son of Oscar Wilde. Is the legendary Richebourg boulangerie anywhere close by the way? Pete. Good spot Pete, How about another one from 1994 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 16 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 16 October , 2021 Five Points cemetery at Lechelles, I was there on 1st October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 16 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 16 October , 2021 19 hours ago, Fattyowls said: I should also have remembered your fondness for Holden; I took one look at his tube stations and it came flooding back. I can't remember the context but I do remember the work. Not bad for a lad from Bolton. Pete. I am fascinated by the almost brutal lines of his work. Very at odds with the English Churchyard style of some cemeteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbo139 Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 30 minutes ago, Michelle Young said: Five Points cemetery at Lechelles, I was there on 1st October The trees have been kept under control!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 a similar gate being visited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaren Posted 16 October , 2021 Share Posted 16 October , 2021 56 minutes ago, gilbo139 said: The trees have been kept under control!! Spot on Michelle. The trunks have thickened in 27 years and cameras have improved! Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Michelle Young Posted 17 October , 2021 Admin Share Posted 17 October , 2021 Is Stormm at Gordon Dump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2021 In an example of seeing what you want to see I suddenly recognise Bazentin-le-Petit in the background and have convinced myself that the tree where Frank Richards' windmill stood is visible. I've been past lots of times but never been down to Gordon Dump, it will be interesting if it isn't. If it is you are on a roll at the moment Michelle. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 17 October , 2021 Share Posted 17 October , 2021 Yes. Michelle. Gordon Dump. slightly unusual as the name is on the sides of the gate posts near the hinges, not on the faces as normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2021 5 hours ago, chaz said: slightly unusual as the name is on the sides of the gate posts near the hinges I did actually notice that, I must make an effort to detour over to the cemetery next time I am in the vicinity, and I could also visit Thistle Dump which not for the first time I've mixed Gordon Dump up with. The phrase If you don't know where you are going you are liable to end up somewhere else is apt here. Good one Chaz. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 17 October , 2021 Share Posted 17 October , 2021 (edited) Pete for you wonder if the brickies laid it wrong, or planned this way. Edited 17 October , 2021 by chaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2021 Chaz, you are a diamond geezer, a prince amongst men. I actually do want to go to Gordon Dump next time I'm over as there is a relative of an Aussie friend of a friend in there. I also don't know that area of the battlefield at all well and would like to rectify that oversight. What are the chances of me ending up at Lancashire Dump in Aveluy however? High I suspect. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz Posted 17 October , 2021 Share Posted 17 October , 2021 the next some might know because the mix of headstone material, 34km up the road from Gordon Dump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 17 October , 2021 Author Share Posted 17 October , 2021 I'll wager it's not got Dump in its name but does have the words Communal and Extension. Beyond that I am unable to comment....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickaren Posted 17 October , 2021 Share Posted 17 October , 2021 27 minutes ago, chaz said: Pete for you wonder if the brickies laid it wrong, or planned this way. Two plans of Gordon Dump, original and final. Does anyone know if it was constructed to the original and the entrance later moved to the present location when the stones with name and dates turned inwards? Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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