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Rugbyrelic

Good evening,

 

Request for Archive / Family resources

 

I am in my final year of MA in History of Britain in the First World War with a dissertation subject of 'Conscientious Objection' during the First World War which will look at both individual circumstances and societal reaction to CO's.  I am looking for any primary evidence and/or original documentation relating to the subject such as letters, diaries or family records of men who objected to war on moral, religious or any ground before or during the First World War period.  Even after a century this remains a delicate subject for many families, and your discretion is entirely assured.  However it is equally an area which worthy scholarship has been minimal for many years, and further research into such an important field is hugely important.

If you do have any personally held records which may be of value, or indeed know of any, and you are happy for me to view at an agreeable time, I would be eternally grateful.

 

Many thanks to one and all.

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fellop

Not a direct answer perhaps, but I enjoyed reading 'The Courage of Cowards'. The untold stories of first world war conscientious objectors, by Karyn Burnham; I have a signed copy.

Pen and Sword 2014.

 

Might be worth a look.

 

Regards

Peter

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Rugbyrelic
9 minutes ago, fellop said:

Not a direct answer perhaps, but I enjoyed reading 'The Courage of Cowards'. The untold stories of first world war conscientious objectors, by Karyn Burnham; I have a signed copy.

Pen and Sword 2014.

 

Might be worth a look.

 

Regards

Peter

Peter - yes indeed I have also read this.  Very good.  Unfortunately although very good referencing, not 'primary' !

 

Thank you for the commen

 

Chris

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Alisonmallen62

Try the Coltman family Burton on Trent they have, I am told, things belonging to William so maybe letters etc. 

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Rugbyrelic
40 minutes ago, Alisonmallen62 said:

Try the Coltman family Burton on Trent they have, I am told, things belonging to William so maybe letters etc. 

Thanks Alison,

Im looking for documentation relating to Conscientious Objectors however - not sure Coltman would be applicable?


Chris

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ilkley remembers
Rugbyrelic
Alisonmallen62
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On information I have seen locally and on line he was a CO on religious grounds and non combatant so would not kill but served as a stretcher bearer.  We teach about him as a CO in school as he is local to our area.  There are a few websites listing him as CO and he is known as this locally but what a brave man, however, I can see what you are after.  

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Rugbyrelic

Alison,
Apologies at my ignorance, indeed a worthy subject. Do you have any ideas on the family name now (still coltman?) and any contact details at all?

 

Regards

C

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Bernard_Lewis

This chap features in my "Swansea in the Great War" book. Source material here (closed due to virus but fielding e-mails:

 

http://www1.swansea.gov.uk/calmview/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog

 

I give a brief account of a CO named Watters, too. 

 

Bernard

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Terry_Reeves
On 31/03/2020 at 19:54, Rugbyrelic said:

Good evening,

 

Request for Archive / Family resources

 

I am in my final year of MA in History of Britain in the First World War with a dissertation subject of 'Conscientious Objection' during the First World War which will look at both individual circumstances and societal reaction to CO's.  I am looking for any primary evidence and/or original documentation relating to the subject such as letters, diaries or family records of men who objected to war on moral, religious or any ground before or during the First World War period.  Even after a century this remains a delicate subject for many families, and your discretion is entirely assured.  However it is equally an area which worthy scholarship has been minimal for many years, and further research into such an important field is hugely important.

If you do have any personally held records which may be of value, or indeed know of any, and you are happy for me to view at an agreeable time, I would be eternally grateful.

 

Many thanks to one and all.

 

This archive has some material that might be of interest. An exchange of letter between husband wife whilst the former was imprisoned:

 

http://www.hullhistorycentre.org.uk/research/research-guides/ww1-conscientious-objection.aspx

 

TR

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researchingreg

My great Uncle Percy John Fordham (born 21 July 1890 in Newmarket and died in 1965 in Portsmouth) was a conscientious objector and was drafted info the Eastern Non Combatant Corps on 9 May 1916 his service number 1071. I have information on the 22 page tribunal and documentation (not originals but copies) and his rather short Army Service record. His older brothers were in the  Army (RASC) though. 

 

If you would like any more information PM me.

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BereniceUK
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On ‎01‎/‎04‎/‎2020 at 19:33, ilkley remembers said:

 

I came across contemporary reports of the Peculiar People, mostly living in Essex, and CO while researching in the online British Library Newspapers, which I don't have access to right now. https://menwhosaidno.org/context/motivation/peculiarPeople.html

 

David Wagstaff, one of the Peculiar People, was sent to Dartmoor, and then to Knutsford Prison. There was apparently a riot by local youths outside Knutsford Prison in 1918, objecting to the presence there of COs. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/5208999.prison-tale/

 

"Without the Camp: Being the Story of why and how the Christadelphians were exempted from Military Service," by Frank G. Jannaway (1917), might be helpful. https://www.amazon.co.uk/WITHOUT-CAMP-CHRISTADELPHIANS-EXEMPTED-MILITARY/dp/B0014LFXOW

 

https://www.christadelphianresearch.com/conscientiousobjection.htm

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Rugbyrelic
2 hours ago, BereniceUK said:

 

I came across contemporary reports of the mostly Essex-located Peculiar People and CO while researching in the online British Library Newspapers, which I don't have access to right now. https://menwhosaidno.org/context/motivation/peculiarPeople.html

 

David Wagstaff, one of the Peculiar People was sent to Dartmoor, and then to Knutsford Prison. There was apparently a riot by local youths outside Knutsford Prison in 1918, objecting to the presence there of COs. https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/5208999.prison-tale/

 

"Without the Camp: Being the Story of why and how the Christadelphians were exempted from Military Service," by Frank G. Jannaway (1917), might be helpful. https://www.amazon.co.uk/WITHOUT-CAMP-CHRISTADELPHIANS-EXEMPTED-MILITARY/dp/B0014LFXOW

 

https://www.christadelphianresearch.com/conscientiousobjection.htm

All good stuff - many thanks

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TullochArd
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I created a basic Conscientious Objector Community on IWM Lives last year based around the arrest of twelve C.O.s in Rawtenstall, Lancashire in May 1916.  Although not the only local instance it was significant in terms of setting an early official reaction to such instances and received many column inches (as verbatim therefore perhaps primary?) from the initial tribunals in the local newspaper, the Rossendale Free Press.  These accounts reflected views on the moral and religious aspects present in a small and diverse newly industrialised/agricultural community in Northern England. 

 

Sadly, under the current circumstances, the library is closed and access to the microfiche records is not possible, so I can't help further. For what it worth the link is at:

 

https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/community/7799

 

Whilst doing this small task I (not unusually) found many such reports but one particularly sad one comes to mind  "LAW STUDENT'S TRAGIC DEATH - C.O. WHO TOOK POISON" in the Rossendale Free Press of August 1918. (He served in the Red Cross early in the War and was awarded 14/15 Star, BWM, BVM posthumously).  The attached is relevant in terms of context and complexity …... if not as primary evidence:  

 

https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/7645883

 

Good luck.

 

Ian

 

 
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