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Fenris

Hi there new to the forum, I recently picked up a ww1 shell and need help identifying it  Head stamp as follows  clockwise  :

 

F.P.S co on the top 

there is a large 11 right near the F.P.S Co  on the right  

1-3-16  there is a small number 53 above that date on the right 

there is an 89 c or d at the bottom of the shell  just above a  (bipja)--- to worn to read the rest 

there is a No19 on the left 

 

I hope that helps  thanks 

 

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NorthStaffsPOW

Hi Fenris. A photo would really help but FPS Co sound like the American firm Federal Press Steel Company. The US was manufactured ordnance for the allies on a large scale even before their official entry into the War. 

 

It's possible that your shell case is an 18pdr as they are one of the most common but a photo and/or dimensions would sort it out. 

All the best. 

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Fenris

thank you ,  i need to get the dimensions  but please see attached pictures 

20200326_115319.jpg

20200326_115413.jpg

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Sepoy

From the second photo, it looks like a cartridge for a French Canon 75mm Model 1897, which was widely used by US Forces during WW1.
Sorry for the short reply, one of my dogs has decided to play with me whilst I try to type!

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NorthStaffsPOW

Now I could be wrong but I predict it will be slightly taller than a standard French 75mm shell case. I think it could be an American made case for the Russian 76.2mm field gun. I always thought that French cases have a smaller primer. Dimensions should help clear this one up. 

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JMB1943

A question before the dimensions come in.

"1-3-16" date is read in England as March 1st, 1916 whereas in the US it reads as January 3rd, 1916.

Not much of a difference, but "1-12-16" would be 11 months difference.

Were US ordnance factories instructed as to dating their munitions for British/French consumption?

 

EDIT: Since these were not "expiry" dates, I don't suppose it matters too much.

Regards,

JMB

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NorthStaffsPOW

I'd never thought about the dates to be honest. I would imagine that some sort of agreement would have been reached. 

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